IM Switzerland 2007 - Page 10 - Triathlon

YASMR!

30/11/2006 at 16:52

>>replace { } for [ ]

M...eldy

pirate

30/11/2006 at 16:53

you dont need /} after .com just the }

Fitn40lots

30/11/2006 at 16:57

went to the help page and found it there, easy peasy...they actually dont do it that way, they still use the [ ] and just add a few extra bits.........

all is well now

Fitn40lots

30/11/2006 at 16:58

swimming in the am, so will try that thank you.

Ultra Gregory

30/11/2006 at 19:07

JB - Shoulders endurance improves because with a pull bouy you work them harder than without (ie you don't get help from your legs).

Paddles will build up strength and power and are good fun, trying skulling with them you can get some pretty good speed and it's actually tireing

Fitn40lots

30/11/2006 at 21:38

oh no stop it now, whats skulling?

Ultra Gregory

30/11/2006 at 21:53

ok how to describe the technique of skulling...

Cartman

30/11/2006 at 21:54

JB, that article makes a lot of sense, and I've had that sensation before when I have got the kicking timed correclty, at least not I know what I'm looking for.

on the kick board. Are you really saying its a complete waste of time ? Even to improve ankle flexibility and keeping the toes pointed back ?

Ultra Gregory

30/11/2006 at 22:03

www.active.com/story.cfm?story_id=12648&sidebar=14

This might explain, it basically lying flat in the water and using just figure of eights with your hands to propel yourself. Your hands out stretched in front of your, half way through your stroke or at the end of the stroke. The idea is to find the point where you catch the water best. This is just something I used to do. Not really sure of the training benefits of long distance, I just used to get cramp in my thumbs when doing it with paddles

YASMR!

01/12/2006 at 10:12

C-man - I'd ditch the kickboard and do diagonal kick. Do some alternating sides, then some 3-switch (take 3 strokes in between). Then you get the benefit of improving roll as well as doing kick properly.

If kicking flat then do some with arms by your side to improve body position, but its not really a kicking drill.

Or try corkscrew, 6 kicks on side then onto back then side then front down the pool.

Looks daft but good for core control and something different to confuse the breast stroke mafia.

Cartman

01/12/2006 at 10:50

JB, sounds like a plan...

Are there any specific drills that can help with the left arm right leg, right arm right leg timing ? or is it just a matter of concentrating on it in a normal stroke ?

YASMR!

01/12/2006 at 10:57

I tried this eeerm a while back as I read it somewhere else. And to be honest I think most people do it naturally.

The easiest way to test it is to stop kicking, or at least not make an effort to kick and you'll find that your leg natuarlly balances your stroke.

When doing a 4 or 6 beat kick (OMG sounds like a TT or ST thread) its harder to tell what you're doing but you're probably doing it correctly without thinking of it.

I did read that some people naturally do the complete opposite though!!

The main point is that sticking a PB in between your legs stops this and prevents you having to maintain a good body position by yourself. Take it away and you slow down.

You should be able to swim without kicking and a PB but you need to "press the T" to maintain a decent position. Time to get the bands out!

Gumps.

01/12/2006 at 11:00

No bands - the last time I tried that my legs were dragging on the bottom, which maybe points out I should work on it

JD.

pirate

01/12/2006 at 11:05

press the T? what's that?

YASMR!

01/12/2006 at 11:07

pushing down with your chest to raise your legs...

Called pushing the T
Pushing the bouy
Downhill swimming etc etc

JD.

pirate

01/12/2006 at 11:24

ah thanks. been doing that recently. my heels have been breaking the surface of the water for the first time ever. not sure how much faster i've been going but it certainly feels easier/faster.

BigBob

01/12/2006 at 21:55

So now we have established the swim part (or at least the swim kick), what about the bike and the run? :-) 112 miles frightens the life out of me, my butt isn't keen on the idea either.

Fitn40lots

05/12/2006 at 14:47

so much to learn.....

swimming tonight, going to try and remember that T thingy as I know that I dont really kick well and legs are a drag.

Cant believe how my upper body is changing shape from the swimming and the weights, always used to do 2 sessions of Body Pump a week for general toning, but ..........not sure I like the "ironmaiden" look, but hey its all for a good cause.

Ultra Gregory

05/12/2006 at 15:58

The 'ironmaiden' look is a great look, I think most triathlete girls are pretty hot so don't worry about it!!

Fitn40lots

05/12/2006 at 16:24

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