IM thoughts

tri novice having IM thoughts

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meface    pirate
05/07/2012 at 21:39

Not sure that Half-IM training is that much less if you want to compete but maybe is if you want to get round.

For an IM running doesn't get much above 2.5 hours on any plans. Anything more and you are fecked for the next session (the next day). So if you give up Saturday or Sunday for long ride with a 6am start you should be done by lunchtime. That leaves you one very early morning or evening for the long run. The rest can be built around. Can you fit any in at lunch time?

I do 9-5 with 1-hr for lunch which means school run at 8am 3-days a week and the other 2 I leave at 8:15. I get home at 6 and help with bedtime. Training starts at 7pm unless more beckons and tender deadlines sometimes leave me up till 2am. Some sessions get missed.

You could take the first 4-weeks of a training plan and do them in September (or now) and see how it works. This will give you a taste for what is to come.

You can do it, you just have to want to do it, and if you don't want to fit the training in then don't do it. There is a lot of training so you have to enjoy it.



Ultra AJH    pirate
06/07/2012 at 06:27
Maybe I was thinking of Henley.

I never actually wanted to do an IM, but after an Olympic decided to give a half a go. I didn't train much more for that to be honest and got round fine.

I then decided I wanted to do the whole pirate thing and entered Zurich, then pulled out cos it was too expensive, then entered IMUk because I could stay with family. I bloody hated training for it, everything went wrong but I decided I had to finish the damn thing.

Then because I decided I didn't do it well I had to enter outlaw, and this time I trained properly and loved it, because this time I was doing it for me.
Ultra AJH    pirate
06/07/2012 at 06:28
So what I'm saying I think is, don't enter just because of the pirate thing. It HAS to be for you.
06/07/2012 at 06:59

As others have said Pixie if you want it you can do it - but you do have to really want it. It's a very selfish thing and it's much easier with the support of your family. You have to stop making excuses and start making plans though! How about leaving home at 0600hrs a couple of mornings and swimming at a pool near work?

PSC    pirate
06/07/2012 at 07:08

Pix, £350 is cheap....  check out some of the IM prices

Up at 5 seems to be the answer and compensate by going to bed earlier.  You don't need to put in 20 hours of training a week - it is possible to train smart for these things as long as you are not trying to break 9 hours.

ImRio    pirate
07/07/2012 at 16:38

Pix if you want/need a mentor I am happy to help

ImRio    pirate
07/07/2012 at 19:02

Of course you are

Message me when you are ready

08/07/2012 at 19:31
It depends on how much time you have. I've never been able to get close to the times suggested for the distances. I normally just swim for an hour a session unless specifically swimming longer ( later in the program). At this stage focusing on improving technique and drills are more important than trying to hit times set by a training program.
meface    pirate
08/07/2012 at 21:40

I do time for everything.

Makes planning easier for everyone as they know how long you intend to be gone for. At the start you may not do the whole wim sets. (I never do) but dut hopefully you will quickly get to the point where the swim cut-offs son't worry you.

We can't come up with solutions to all your time problems - it is up to you to find them. We all have different time pressures and different solutions.

But they can be found.


09/07/2012 at 07:04

Don Fink's Just Get Round plan has 1600m swim sets for the first ten weeks - might be worth investing in the book as it has some good time management ideas too.

ImRio    pirate
09/07/2012 at 08:46

Pix I have swim sets, turbo sets and long bike sets that I can send to you to give you an idea of the sorts of stuff I did.  From that then you will be able to decide whether you are up for it or not.  Oh you will need an HRM for best effect too   Though perceived effort works

10/07/2012 at 07:25

It is Pixie - well worth a read. If you're time limited check out the Just Get Round plan - but read the rest too!

If you have a naturally high HR there's no reason not to work to the figures - Don Fink's zones are based on percentages of max so as long as you know what that is you can work within them.

Do you have a turbo? Invaluable in the bad weather - and helps with time management, not to mention mental training.

When is your HIM?

11/07/2012 at 13:57

I'd worry more about where my peak four weeks fitted in than about the week after Pixie - that will take care of itself!

ImRio    pirate
12/07/2012 at 09:51

As HC says its more about before than after (though it will be better if you don't have to race straight back to normal work) for both a full and a half.

The turbo will be fine   As long as it is stable it is really quite hard to fall off it (though it has been done).  You will get used to it.  Just don't think about it and as you don't need to put your feet down during the work out it won't matter if you are six feet off the ground.

14/07/2012 at 14:40

Hi Pixie

Glad to see you're interested

I too work in a school, am overweight and not particularly fit (by sports standards) and really struggle with motivation to train too being a lazy beggar  but as you know I managed to get round Outlaw a couple of weeks back  

My peak training weeks also coincided with the busiest time at work for me and also days when instead of being office based I was on my feet for 12 hours at a go..... it wasn't ideal but if you want it somehow you manage to sort something out!

Good luck with whatever you decide to do and hope to see you soon

14/07/2012 at 23:43

I was just a finisher EP (5th from last in 16 1/2 hours!!)

Difficult to say how long the peak weeks were as what I had planned (and I sort of wrote my own plan ) and what actually happened failed to coincide generally......

My ideal week was 3 run, 3 bike and 2 swim and in the peak weeks I was probably looking at something along the lines of:

Mon Eve - 5 mile tempo run with running club
Mid week - either OW or drills swim + 1 other run (either hills or longer 8 - 10 mile run) + 2 short bikes (either turbo or approx 1 hour outside)
Sat AM - 6 hour bike (very slow around 12 mph)
Sat PM - hour's coached swim with tri club
Sun AM - 2 1/2 run partly with running club

However I never managed all the sessions and both my longest bikes and runs fall well short of what would be recommended by most....

Most importantly though was that I did my own plan (with some help from my mentor and tri club mates) because I needed one which didnt' scare me and which I had an idea I could manage to do 90% of it 90% of the time.....

15/07/2012 at 20:19

ImRio    pirate
16/07/2012 at 19:01

EP be mindful that the "just finishers" of Finks plan are probably going to be training much faster than you are and will probably "just finish" in around 13-14 hours or less I would guess (though I am happy to be proved wrong).  I think realistically you will need to aim to do a bit more than that

16/07/2012 at 20:30

Hi Rio, Fink's Just Get Round is aimed at those hoping to finish inside the cut off, hence the hour long swim sets starting at 1600m. What I think it is important to emphasise though is that if you're only going to manage ten hours of training in your peak weeks then you need to be very consistent with your sessions and can't afford to drop any.

17/07/2012 at 08:28
Or your fitter than you think T E P
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