Introduction from Hilly

Every journey has a start, this is mine

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Cortina5    pirate
14/11/2012 at 16:52
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Did anyone have any thoughts on the best way to extend a 30 week training plan?


Fink is long enough as it is, and you'll have had enough by 24 weeks or so. Absolutely no need to start it a further 20 weeks early.

However......get yourself in to a nice routine where you can swim/bike/run a few times a week. This will get the body used to it, and the gradual increase when Fink starts won't be too unbearable.

14/11/2012 at 17:00

I agree with IronCat, you really get fed up, by week 22 in my case. Just do a little bit of everything in the meantime.

Dustboy    pirate
14/11/2012 at 19:34

I am not going to make Farnham tonight Hilly, just got in from work. But please do report back and say how you felt it went. They are really good guys and the swim coaching is second to none.

Provisionally looking at Sun 25th Nov for this little bike ride outing.

Anyone else want a copy of DBs winter flatty route, please PM & I'll send it on PDF as soon as I can.

15/11/2012 at 09:25

Thanks for letting me know you would not be able to make the swim, I went along anyway. Thankfully i was put in the can't swim won't swim lane, I was not the only one there that had issues moving to swimming crawl. The coach spent a good bit of time making sure that no one who couldn't swim drowned. While it worked well, and i have taken away a good few things to be working on I'll be going ahead with some 1-2-1 lessons to give my self an extra boost.

The 25th sounds good to me, have penciled it in to my diary to avoid double booking.

If you like i can upload the map to my public dropbox folder and put a link to it here to save you having to email it out?

15/11/2012 at 22:53

Another first today, decided it was about time to try a transition, I'm also looking to lower my training HR a little. So nice easy session on the turbo, 40 min average HR of 116 bpm cadance at 84rpm. Followed by a 2 min 30 sec change into running kit, alarm the house and out the door. Then a run, the HR was all over the place for this, did 20 min at an average of 159 bpm covering a little over 2 miles.

It didn't feel as bad as i was expecting, proabably because of the easy cycle, but its a starting point to move on from. Next few days I'll be seeing some family, so just a little light running, back on the bike and swimming sunday i hope.

28/11/2012 at 13:24

Not posted anything here in a while, run pace is improving for the same HR, with my swimming i seem to have at long last found my jogging pace, and had a great ride sunday with Dusty.
There were a few issues with the bike and its owner on the ride, my first clipless moment, and another near miss unclipping just before the ride. I also lost the use of the smallest rear cog coupled with a bit of noise. Turned out my cassette had worked its self lose, thats what you get for building your own bike and not re checking everything is still tight after a few miles.
The route Dusty took us on was really plesant, couple of bumps, but not too steep or long at all. There were fun down hills the odd ford due to heavy rain, and i now at least know some people from the forums. I'll be signing up for the next flat ride i get the opertunity to. Only regret from the ride is i left my garmin set up from my last turbo session, with HR and cadance alarms on, so i turned it off almost straight away, so no data at all was recorded, can't see what speed i got upto on the down hills or how hard Dusty made me work on the intervals we tried.

Think i have kicked the cold that set in sunday afternoon, looking forward to a swim tonight and a run tomorrow.

28/11/2012 at 13:40

Nice to meet you TH. I got up to 30mph on the downhills, if thats any help for you.

Mr Zuvai    pirate
28/11/2012 at 13:44

Im delighted to have spotted this thread!  

welcome to the mad house! training looks to be going well! - very nice bike!

Let me know if you fancy coming down to the south coast for some sea swimming later next year when it warms up


28/11/2012 at 13:51

CJ - It's no big deal i just like to look through the data when i get home, I'm so used to being alone on the bike and just having my HR and cadance data for company. People are far more fun to ride with but both would be best.

Zuvai - Think i have some work to do before I'll be looking for a sea swim, but then again we have a long time before the water will be warming up. Where abouts on the coast were you suggesting, the only area i really know is Milford/Barton on Sea to Lymington area.

Mr Zuvai    pirate
28/11/2012 at 13:57

Im in Portsmouth  - i think we might actually know each other in real life

28/11/2012 at 14:02

You have me racking my brains for who i know that lives in Portsmouth, no one is springing to mind at the moment, but feel free to drop me a PM if you like.

Mr Zuvai    pirate
28/11/2012 at 14:12

haha - this could be awkward!
PM sent

Dustboy    pirate
28/11/2012 at 15:16


Welcome to a copy of my Garmin data for the ride but I have no idea how you make it public. I got up to 35.16 mph, average was 12.9, 25.82 miles so about 21-22 for the ride as I rode there and home. 965 feet of climb and it took us a couple of hours.

Intervals were quite fun, shame road was too short.

I was going to spare you the blushes of the clipless, but as you mentioned it, the first was before we got out of the car park wasn't it?

28/11/2012 at 15:21

It may have been, but none of me hit the deck so I'm ignoring that one just a little balance test, although there was enough noise for someone to notice...

You out and swimming tonight then dusty?

Dustboy    pirate
28/11/2012 at 15:40

Nah, the cold that was threatening by close of Sunday has now entrenched itself, so it's dinner, a blast on the guitar and call it a night for me.

Note the FTC fun swimming gala dates are up for Jan I believe. One of the best Friday nights fun you can have at a swimming pool.

28/11/2012 at 16:03

I've now made it onto the FTC mailing list so saw the gala and the IM training weekend, think i will attend both, but not sure if i will have the full IM distance in me at such short notice. I think i can get the swimming distance sorted, but the 75 min availabe will make it a very tough ask for me. The bike, I've never pushed my self that far, my longes ever ride was a 25 mile charity ride when i was a lot youger. Running, I've worked up to 10k so far, so again that is going to be a tough ask. But its another something to aim for.

Hope that cold dosn't take too long to get over.

Edited: 28/11/2012 at 16:03
Dustboy    pirate
28/11/2012 at 16:21

Re the IM weekend, I only ever do the half swimming, am not fast enough. The IM bike course is a peach now, 3 lap half, 6 lap full. The run on the Sunday is fab too. You can do half or full, but some just do a 10K. As it's a club do, they have a lot of flexibility on what you do and you can mix and match distances as well. So last year, I did half swim, half bike and full run. All fully supported and timed and run under race conditions, with cake. Total cost (yes, all in) six quid. No you didn't misread that.

I'll probably do half of each next year. Preferably without a 30 mph downhill puncture in the front wheel this time.   

29/11/2012 at 13:18

Last nights run was a 32min 5k, was going to be faster but i ended up with a stitch about 15 min in and had to slow down to a quick walk to shift it.
New swim coach for me at farnham tri, session plan was as follows:
400m warm up, using at least 2 different strokes
50m drill 50m swim for (sculling, doggy paddle, finger dragging, no fins kicking)
Main set 2000m
400m cool down

Well having only gone 500m with out a break before this may prove interesting, after doing the warm up and drills I was taking a short rest before the main set, when another coach came over and saved me. I ended up spending the time that would have been used for the main set working on some drills targeted at some of my main weaknesses. This was really helpful, and really puts how little i got out of my hour long 1-2-1 session into perspective, the guy helping me was not even on coaching duty that night, very generous and extremely helpful.

I was all built up and ready to see how much of that 2000m i could handle, but there is always next time to try that, the advice will serve me far better. I recorded doing 1500m total for the night which may be a little under what i actually did, but that is the most i have swam again, and an awful lot of that was crawl.

Tonight, will involve looking after the other half who has picked up the cold i had a few days back and a nice gental turbo session, 40-60 min.

Checked my warm down swim time, and i'm at about 33 seconds per 25min length, that would equate to a 85min 2.4 mile swim by my thinking. So all i need to do is add on 2000m, and cut the time by 10 min by the end of march, sounds like a doddle.


Dustboy    pirate
29/11/2012 at 14:51

30 seconds for a length is peasy, doing it non stop for 152 of them (3.8K) is a little harder. 100s off 2 mins 30 will become your friend at some point.

I can do 25M in a shade over 16 secs and 50M in sbout 38 secs but still take 1.45 to do full distance. Still can't work out why LOL! But OW/wind/choppiness/sighting etc can all have an effect. Sound like you are progressing pretty well though.

30/11/2012 at 11:14

Turbo session didn't happen, so decided to ride into work today, nothing too taxing. Really good to be out in the fresh air, and it was very fresh this morning, didn't bother waving through queuing traffic or really taking advantage of being on 2 wheels, but made it in to work in around 40 min, a fair bit slower than i can do, but stress free on the roads and the hills didn't kill me.

Need to sort out a long ride for the weekend, may try and make the Farnham Tri Sunday swim.

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