...and I'm not talking about mini-me bikes!

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04/09/2003 at 15:56
i have two more sprint tri's left where i want to do really well so any secs i can save will help. the second one i should have a lane to myself for most if not all the swimming leg (if last year is anything to go by). ill do tumbles for this and prac beforehand. only prob for me is flipping legs over quickly enough.
so could save 16secs in total? wow!
04/09/2003 at 15:58
I'll try swimming 400m with and without tumbles and let you know the difference - won't be able to report back til monday though so you may need to remind me.
04/09/2003 at 16:05
cool, thanks
WildWill    pirate
04/09/2003 at 17:27
issue 135 of 220 has a "How to" article on Tumble Turns

It recons it takes about 3 weeks to get them sussed
WildWill    pirate
04/09/2003 at 17:28
The race i did last weekend the fastest swimmer (and overall winner) did the 500m in 5:12 in a short course pool (Thats fast)
04/09/2003 at 17:31
nice one, ta. i have 3 weeks and 3 days, perfick!

04/09/2003 at 22:36
Oh boy! I turned up late for the party!

Skim read the posts - few points.

My proposal re. cycles of Bias between disciplines was more to do proportions of training and phases (i.e. intensity) of training over longer periods of time. Not necessarily a week of this or that. If your regular weekly swim distance=wsd, and then wbd and wrd respectively, then I was thinking more on the line of 1/2 - 3/4 wsd & wcd, and 2x wrd or vice versa over a period of a month or two or perhaps even longer. To some degree you could even work in annual cycles.

The reason for this working is that when you reach a certain level of fitness/perforamnce it is far easier to maintain it or regain than to get there in the first place. Hence by placing more bias on each discipline for a while you can progress to higher levels than you would otherwise in those disciplines and then maintain that level on lower levels of training while progressing in other discplines.

As to what the levels/percentages/equations are, I don't know. Triathlon has been more theory than practice for me of late...

And key to good tumble turns is the head. When you tuck teh head down keep tucking and then kepping tucking some more. Where most newbies go wrong is that they push/tuck the head and then stop pushing and so progression of the turn stops. The head LEADS the way. Keep tucking the head under and the body follows more easily. Just watch out for your feet on the side as you over shooy when you first get it right! - it makes such a difference.
05/09/2003 at 10:21
pantman, what does w and d stand for? excuse my early morning ignorance (although I dont have excuse of not having drunk a coffee this time!)?

Nice one re:head tucking. I did a 4x250m set last night with a few tumbles thrown in. they were quite average apart from the one where I almost headbutted the bottom of the pool. great :O(
05/09/2003 at 10:29
weekly distance - it was explained in the post, Dazzle...
05/09/2003 at 10:52
nice one! :O)
WildWill    pirate
05/09/2003 at 14:56
I did tumble turns today (deep end only) without drowning :o)

Not very good/stylish but its a start
05/09/2003 at 15:05
hopw did you find the breathing?
i usually struggle just after completing one
05/09/2003 at 15:16
[Jj's mental image of two of her favourite Supermen fast being redrawn]
05/09/2003 at 15:27
Hey, JJ! I can do them all day long...

Can I be one of your supermen? PLease! Can I ? Can I?

<<Pantman does puppy dog eyes thing - very well>>
WildWill    pirate
05/09/2003 at 15:32
Pant - LOL

The pool I train in is very shallow at the shallow end and only chest deep at the deep end so i stuck to just doing them at the deep end - but did them every turn at that end

Got the breathing wrong a few times - eater to far off the wall or too close to wall

But I will not be defeated :o)
05/09/2003 at 15:59
Awww Pantie - you KNOW you are...

pat, pat.

WW - chest deep? Even with my, um, unsmall chest, that would be TERRIBLY shallow.

[Or perhaps that big red 'S' is well deserved?]
08/09/2003 at 18:18
Tried to do a few tt's today. At least half of them were useless and a few were diabolical (legs going everywhere and ending up in a foetal position in another lane!).
I hate them!
09/09/2003 at 08:45
Might try some tumbles tonight, haven't done one for years.

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