MTB Bars

Riser Vs Flat

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Calf    pirate
19/05/2004 at 13:31
Which is best, why are all the bikes now sold with the rise bars and not flat with bar ends?

Surely flat bars are stronger and lighter?

Cheers
cougie    pirate
19/05/2004 at 13:47
Probably fashion ?

Or what stems are they putting on - they used to be angled up so you didn't need the riser bars.
Calf    pirate
19/05/2004 at 13:52
Cougs, probably get panned for this but I used to like my bar ends (ahem) getting hold of them and powering, ok wheezing my way up hills but have never seen a riser bar with a bar end?

cougie    pirate
19/05/2004 at 13:58
I loved my X lite bar ends - I used to ride on them all the time. Like a very wide pair of Tribars. And you could get quite low on them too.

Very functional for climbing too.

Where is MMmmm or Gary T and WW - they are MTBers I think ?
19/05/2004 at 14:10
I prefer the riser bars as they are slightly angled towards me and therefore at right-angles to my outstretched arms; whereas a wide set of flat bars would force my wrists to rotate outwards if you see what I mean. However if you are into narrower bars then flats can be fine with a set of bar-ends.

There is also slightly more adjustability with risers since you can rotate them toward or away from you.

Errr... and they look nicer :-)
cougie    pirate
19/05/2004 at 14:22
Told ya ! Fashion !

Bet the flat bars will be back next year.

Do peeps not use bar ends anymore ?
19/05/2004 at 16:13
when they first started being used it was a radical rebellious move...
...putting emphasis on comfort rather than style.

slowly but surely _everyone_ adopted them cos it was the style! (and possibly cos they're more comfortable)

you can still get straight bars & bar ends, bad idea on risers though due to the swept back angle.
Calf    pirate
19/05/2004 at 16:32
Ah ha, Cougie your right!

I just remember seeing them on the gnarly (is that actually a word) down hill bikes when they came out, but suddenly they seem to be on the XC bikes as well.

So it'll be a trip to get some boring flat bars and bar ends at the weekend!


Cheers guys
cougie    pirate
19/05/2004 at 16:39
Aaaaaah Gnarly.

That takes me back.

We must reintroduce it !
Calf    pirate
19/05/2004 at 16:44
What about


'Skill'

Now there's a word you probably haven't heard in a while!

19/05/2004 at 21:29
Risers every time, although depends what you want them for.

Flat bars force you into more of a racing position and dont give you the same control on rougher terrain as a decent riser. Flats tend to be a bit narrower as well which also give you less control.

There are still a lot of XC mtb's that sell with flats as standard (I think the Spesh Stumpjumper hardtail is one example).
20/05/2004 at 09:21
It depends on what yer using yer bike for...

Risers give more control, and manouverability on gnarly singletracky stuff (thus DH bars first)... but flats put you more in a 'roadie' position.. good for lond all day flatish trails...

Oh and risers are generally wider than flats too so can have greater steering input and feedback with them...

I like the comfort and feel of risers... alter yer seat position when you change from falts to risers and you get used to it and don't miss yer barends too much on the hills either...

Honestly!!!
20/05/2004 at 09:43
I've got flats but have been thinking of changing over to risers as the riding position with the flats does give me a bit of back ache so riding higher should cure that........but will I miss my bar-ends which I do like....decisions, decisions...
20/05/2004 at 09:46
higher and further back too....

and ya' get used to no barends.. due to the curve of the bar ya' get more leaverage anyhow for out of seat 'hoiking' up hills where barends were useful for on flatties...

Give it a try, see how it goes... Anyhow there's someone here at wuk who has real wide cowhorn risers AND barends...

;o)
20/05/2004 at 09:54
haha - I know - take a pair of drop handlebars and turn then upside down......real cowhorn bars then......will ride with back vertical...
20/05/2004 at 13:18

I put a pair of 26" risers on my mtb and it was the best and cheapest upgrade I had. The bike came with 24" flats so the control was sh!te.

I never really liked bar ends, although can see they help on longer rides. Risers are much better going up hills than with bar ends. As for going downhill, there is no comparison.

Discussing this makes me realise my bike is in severe need of being replaced,
20/05/2004 at 14:24
I understand about 1 word in every 4 on this thread.
20/05/2004 at 14:29
if you want higher & further back... change the stem!



the leverage due to curve argument doesnt wash.
Calf    pirate
20/05/2004 at 14:33
Ed_m

Thats cleared it up then!
20/05/2004 at 14:42
ed,

risers defo give you more control for the rough stuff, thats why all the downhill bikes have a higher rise. You dont need them further back either, mine are slightly fwd but the rise puts your contact points (your hands) slightly higher than the stem giving a lot more control. Note the rise on BMX and trial bike set ups.

If you want speed and light, go for narrow flats - wouldn't disagree with you there. If you prefer a bit more control, go for wider risers (the sweep/rise/width depends on wheher you want to go for X-C, general trail, freeride, or dhill).
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