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Holly_Golightly    pirate
16/08/2010 at 18:11

Realise that, FB. Just from my perspective having done an branded M. for my first, I thought long and hard whether I wanted to have an M. tattoo.

I can't answer the question whether I would have had an M. had I not done the first one as a M. branded event.

Also to consider is that Outlaw was a superbly organised event and it if it continues to be so, it may be that in the UK, Outlaw becomes synonymous with long distance tri....

Cona    pirate
16/08/2010 at 18:13
Once again, it's what it means to the person whom it is on not those looking at it. For me it's a symbol of all the hard work and hours over the 12 months and not the brand
Holly_Golightly    pirate
16/08/2010 at 18:18

So taking that literally, it means that to you that the Outlaw name does not mean the same in terms of effort or reward the same,  What would it take for them to mean the same?

I have to say that I work in marketing, so I look on things like this quite differently I guess.

It's the battle of the brands.  Outlaw may be a bit pissed off that people take their highly branded >O 'long course / iron-distance' event and turn it into an 'ironman - M.' Which is essentially their competition.

Just like Pepsi may get a bit pissed off with people referring to their soft fizzy drink as Coke.

16/08/2010 at 18:19
I've thought about getting an Outlaw tat done as it is quite distinctive but I don't think I will. if I had tats for every branded race that I've done I'd be covered in things like Flora, Virgin, Nike, Adidas, Asics etc logos!!!

my m.dot will do
16/08/2010 at 18:22
holly - think of how many times the finish line announcers said "you are an Ironman ...ooops - sorry - Outlaw" on Sunday.... it's ingrained into the psyche for many and there are many companies out there that would kill for that sort of brand recognition!! and I guess Outlaw is benefiting from that in many ways....
16/08/2010 at 18:23
true holly - doing the outlaw and then getting an M. tattoo is a real insult to the outlaw organisers
16/08/2010 at 18:28

I rather like the Outlaw logo.  If I'd done the race, I'd certainly have a good think about that logo as an alternative to the M dot as I think it looks great and would make a great tattoo ( would have to be in blackwork though).


M...eldy    pirate
16/08/2010 at 19:15
I am glad I didnt do TB(short)W ... I wouldnt want to go round with a tattoo of Trev on my arse  
Holly_Golightly    pirate
16/08/2010 at 19:23
Lol Melds.

I reckon the Outlaw folks also spent quite a bit on designing a logo that was replicable so I was looking forward to seeing the Outlaw tats.
Next year maybe
17/08/2010 at 10:01
Chrissie Wellington broke the Ironman record at a non M. event...does that mean it doesn't count? Course not...I think you'll find in the eyes of WTC that is the case.Chrissie may have broken the Iron Distance record but not the IM record at Roth.
17/08/2010 at 10:24
and anyway - Roth is a short course so does it count from that perspective? if it was full length she may have taken 5 mins extra...
Edited: 17/08/2010 at 10:24
IronM.in    pirate
17/08/2010 at 10:41
Oops - another Groundhog Day here in RW / TW land?
OrangeCannon kona-6    pirate
17/08/2010 at 11:26
I did the outlaw as I have no M in my forum name....
17/08/2010 at 12:06
Oops - another Groundhog Day here in RW / TW land?
18/08/2010 at 15:38
Holly_Golightly wrote (see

Just a small question, but I take it you mean you got the outlaw tattoo, not an M. ?  Obviously they are both long distance triathlon, but M. is a brand. 

If you've completed the Outlaw and got an M. tattoo isn't it like running the Nike 10K and getting an Adidas tattoo?


Who gives a monkeys? done the training cracked an Iron distance course have a 2 ft M. surrunded by a ring of outlaw symols its a personal decision done 2.4/112/26.2 you have done an ironman 

enjoy your tat  Lisa

18/08/2010 at 15:41
Holly_Golightly wrote (see
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So taking that literally, it means that to you that the Outlaw name does not mean the same in terms of effort or reward the same,  What would it take for them to mean the same?



Spookily I found training for and racing Outlaw just as hard as the M. races I have done
18/08/2010 at 16:50

Just looked at a picture of a result slip from the Outlaw which says "Outlaw Iron Man Triathlon"

Enjoy your name change Purple


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