(Newbie alert) My training plan idea

Does this make sense?

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17/07/2012 at 22:31

His mind's going now, he's repeating himself!  Next it'll be his bladder and then he'l end up like Golden Boots!  Meldy, you'd best apply the antidote soon!    Or maybe not, for the amusement factor!!  

OrangeCannon kona-5    pirate
17/07/2012 at 22:51
I like the idea of a basic repeatable week.....
But you need somewhere to go. its 14 months to henley.....

15 hrs is my basic week but i am into my 4th year of IM
That goes up to 20 by then end. if your max effott is 15 hrs then you need to build into it. otjerwise you will only do.10 weeks of it.

Are you trying to hammer the vlm or just trying to get around? if you are an experienced marathoner then you know what you are doing. however for IM you want 2 times biking to running (maybe more)
If its your first marathon, why not use the vlm as a long training run and just do IM ru. Training for it. .... ( NO fast sessions needed.)

2-3 hr turbos...? ive done 4 in 3 years. when there is snow on the ground. They are a last resort

Most IM programs go on time, and the run tops out at regular 2.5 hr runs....

Do you plan a recovery week every 4th week?


Your rescehduled.program has no bike interval on there... Try to keep at least one of those

Fink is a good start point for IM.

I hate typing on a phone
OrangeCannon kona-5    pirate
17/07/2012 at 22:55
Do some more reading.... Search for gordo triathlete + basic week, and also look for the 'where to start' on sndurance corner for lots of articles on the basics of training

Oh and you got the basics right - long bike, long run, long swim, 3 sessions per week per sport, some intensity but only 1 heavy session per week.....

Oh and theb repeat for 40 weeks out of 50
17/07/2012 at 23:35

Nice to see a similer plan for next year that I had in mind. 

I have a nook - The non-runners Marathon Trainer (Whitsett) which I originally started 4     weeks before I did the Sprint Tri (July 8th - last minute decision!)  Having read it I think   the training plan is good but wondered how to incorporate the Tri work.  I too have the Fink book which I prefer to Going Long (Friel) and the Ironman books but I thinkl I have information overload!  

I am itching to get into the 12 + hrs a week training but can you start at that amount of time training if you take it as base training or would you have to build up the hours over time? I'm rather impatient to jump in but worried about injury or illness. 

I am hoping to get into London (VLM)( if not will try a charity place) so I think there is plenty of time for training up to that but am I being over ambitious going for Ironman from beginner?  (Thinking of Lanzarote or Florida - somewhere warm - I prefer heat).  I am 44 but I say beginner as I haven't done any serious training for 20 yrs. I am slim (under 9 stone and size 8), have got horses, dogs and kids so I would consider above average active.  Family think I'm bit mad but even they think I could do it and I feel with proper training and advice I can't see why not.. Starting to ramble now - the main thing I'm questioning is can I jump into the Fink (or similar) training program from pretty much scratch (I did finish my Tri after 4 weeks basic running, 3 swim lessons and couple of rides out on bike).  9 months to marathon in April ? Lanzarote is May - er maybe not - Florida or Cozumel Mexico in the Autumn??

Could also do Chester (5 miles away) this October as well? but thats crazy 

IronCat5    pirate
18/07/2012 at 08:33
Hi Riodog,

So, can you run for an hour and bike for an hour, both in Z2? Can you swim for 30mins?

If so you can start Fink's just-finish plan. You have plenty of time, so build it up or do a test week. Then if it works, tick over gently (tri club swims and bike sessions) until 32 weeks out (30 plus 2 in the bag for illness/work).

Then sit back, recover, say you'll never do it again. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
18/07/2012 at 08:53
O.rangeCannon I came, I saw, I knitted wrote (see)
I like the idea of a basic repeatable week.....
But you need somewhere to go. its 14 months to henley.....

It is repeatable in format but it does develop. The long runs progressively get longer and the bike rides too.

18/07/2012 at 10:01

Thanks IronCat5 that's given me permission to just do it!  I can easily do bike hr in Z2 and I can run for an hr but not sure if I'm constant Z2, but yes I can do swim for well over 30 mins - easy hour.  

Think I will get my diary right now and mark in the plan! I need a kick up the arse this week - after tri over a week ago I took last week easy and I've not done ANYTHING yet this week - (doing my accounts). 

18/07/2012 at 13:07

consistency tops everything, plans like Fink work, not because they're good but because anything done consistently will yield improvement, especailly in slower athletes (of which I consider myself one).

There's no magic weekly plan but I like the fact there's no consecutive run days (leads to injury) there's lots of things you can do to make sessions interesting and more specific such as hill reps, big gear work etc.

Whilst I don't like Fink or off the shelf plans - I do think if you have the flexibility within your schedule to follow one, as part of a group, then you'll be more likely to stick with it over the months than purely DIY approach unless you're of a strong mindset.

You'll find that you'll be able to hit your run goals whilst doing IM training purely as you'll be much fitter due to the increased volume.

Best of luck.


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