Non- training related Outlaw Questions

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26/03/2012 at 20:36
Cheers,   I thought with it being multi-lap there wouldn't be, Not sure if every 5 miles is enough for checking my pace off, but I guess there will come a point where it's all about survival and not mile splits.
M...eldy    pirate
26/03/2012 at 20:38
Checking my pace = seeing if my legs are still moving in a forwards direction !  
IronCat5    pirate
26/03/2012 at 20:46
marshallini wrote (see)
 I guess there will come a point where it's all about survival and not mile splits.

0600 on July 1st!

Do you have a garmin or similar that will give you the pace info?

27/03/2012 at 07:50
M...eldy wrote (see)
...there you go, I stand corrected 

First time for everything
Running Postie    pirate
27/03/2012 at 17:08

I remember the 5 mile markers I also remember swearing at the top end of the lake as it was a tad windy!

Kanga M    pirate
27/03/2012 at 21:59
Gladys M. wrote (see)
I know, I know! I knew it was coming from someone, just didn't expect it to be the Prince! Anyway, it wasn't a princess bracelet, it was a PIRATE bracelet (just a Princess badge!)

Princess Gladys, priceless. You, Eugenie, and Beatrice should team up for a relay event, tiaras all around then 
M...eldy    pirate
28/03/2012 at 07:53



and Mr Foot ... you'll keep !
IronM.in    pirate
28/03/2012 at 09:09

OC - an excellent post and I think it would be a plan to send it to Hollywood for inclusion on the website.

WildWill    pirate
28/03/2012 at 13:31
i never seem to recal seeing mile markers on a IM run ... i think i'm normally in too much pain

On a good day i focus on the next aid station

On a bad day the next port-a-loo
Edited: 28/03/2012 at 13:33
M...eldy    pirate
28/03/2012 at 13:35
I dont think I have ever seen them on an IM either WIll .... and I am not sure my brain would compute if I did !!
Cheerful Dave    pirate
28/03/2012 at 16:26

They had km markers at Roth - all forty-flippin-two of them.  Information overload!

M...eldy    pirate
28/03/2012 at 19:06
I really was asleep then !!  




*and before anyone points out, yes I know I missed the last 10k 
Trogs    pirate
29/03/2012 at 21:45

I believe High5 Citrus will be the energy drink on offer around the bike course.

Then there's your own choice of gels, energy bars, pies, sandwiches, crisps, peanuts or whatever else suits which can be attached to your frame or packed into the bento box or pockets.

IronCat5    pirate
29/03/2012 at 21:51

I believe Nuun are zero calorie, just electrolytes.

I've got a tub of High5 2:1 and a couple of boxes of gels to practise with. That is what will be on the course. I'm going to use a frame mounted speedfil and 2 rear cages. 1 cage for spare tubes etc. The other will start with water to settle down on, then get dumped at the first station.

Then I'll grab high5 and refill the speedfil from that. Empty bottleback in rear cage. Dump bottle at next station. Rinseand repeat. I doubt I'll be getting a bottle at each feed station as the speedfil holds almost 2 bottles worth.

I guess it all depends on the heat etc. I've also noticed that a very full speedfil does tend to splash out over bumps until you lower the fluid level. Sticky RH leg.

VT'd    pirate
29/03/2012 at 22:42

I don't have the first clue how I'm going to approach this. 

I have started taking citrus Nuun tablets in a bar mounted aero bottle and I think they have helped my hydration levels on my longer bike rides to date.  I have taken a couple of SIS gels and water with no ill effects.

I am one of the people who struggle to get anything down when I'm working hard on the run, but I don't intend working that hard on the bike where it makes me want to puke my gels.  I don't really like High5 so I'll have to carry my own nutrition.  I'm thinking a few nuun tablets and half a dozen SIS gels (which I find nearly impossible to open with a single sweaty hand).  Also a couple of Go bars, flapjacks or the like.

My ignorant and not very well considered thoughts: 

If I get out from T1, get something on board and into the first 10 miles not feeling like I'm already empty then I could reach a feed station first time round and top up on water and something edible(?).  Can/should I leave a couple of malt loafs or something nutritious at the pirate feed station, bearing in mind I'll be amongst the latter ones to pass through.....? lol.

I don't know what else to eat on the bike or how else to plan that part.   If I can get it right I know I can reach T2 and approach the run as a separate unit with, for me, its completely different nutrition requirements, and its own unique problems/strategy.

Jelly babies and water have gotten me through previous long runs and marathon, but I'm aware of this step up in the endurance stakes.  Flat coke and crisps might appear less of a perceived stomach churning prospect if I'm just hanging in with many miles still to go.

I hope I am making some sense.

bburn plO.dder    pirate
30/03/2012 at 09:44

I'm struggling wth bike nutrition too. Yesterday I went out for my longest ride to date (5hrs).

I nibbled regularly about every half hour on flapjack and Eccles Cake (yum!), topping up with water and bit of sports drink. But after about 3.5hrs, although I was OK, I could feel myself starting to flag.

My OH (who was riding with me) suggested stopping off at a shop and grabbing a sandwich. One tuna mayo on granary later, I felt great, and finished really strong, thinking I could have carried on.

So, is it realistic or feasible to have sandwiches, or is it just a bit bonkers? . Where the hell I'd keep them without them getting squished is another matter...

Maybe malt loaf could be a good compromise Vt'd.

The marathon I think I'm sorted for. Past experience tells me gels are fine to get me through a mara

VT'd    pirate
30/03/2012 at 09:56

bbp, I initially wrote about carrying a sandwich or two on my bike, pehaps taped in the frame triangle LOL.  I took it out thinking that was just silly, but that's twice now you've had the courage to ask the question I didn't.

I found the ice cream and half bottle of cold lucozade that I had during this weeks long run was a fantastic boost, but I'm pretty sure the pirate feedstation will not have an facility for rum and raisin ice cream........

That's a great length of time in the saddle, well done. 

bburn plO.dder    pirate
30/03/2012 at 10:15

Thanks, VT'd. Pretty low intensity (for that read slow ), but I was pleased with the time on the saddle, and no ill effects at all today.

Wow, if the pirate feedstation had ice cream......tremendous!!!

My worst (or was it best ) eating escapade while running was this last Christmas. I was staying with family in Portugal, I did a fabulous clifftop trail run, which involved running for an hour, a stop for a full cream tea - scones, clotted cream, pot of tea, the works!!, then running back for an hour. It was great, I think I definitely took on more fuel that I used that day

Maybe some expereinced pirates will come along with pearls of wisdom re: sandwiches. Another thought I had was to have a sandwich (or something equivalent) in T1, so that at least I'd be setting off well fueled, and then top up with gels/snacks for the rest of the ride.

That should be pretty easy to test setting off from home, eating as you dash out the front door and jump on your bike!! 

VT'd    pirate
30/03/2012 at 10:28
Yeah, an hour or so splashing about in the bath, sandwich,bike.  My type of brick.
Iron Muffin    pirate
30/03/2012 at 10:29

My last long ride included a cream cheese and marmite sarnie. Even ate it on the go - that is progress fo me!

I am definitely in the sandwich and savoury camp.

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