Numpty IM Bike Thread

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Ratbag    pirate
20/02/2012 at 17:53
Hmmmmm....maybe I'm invisible......
Ratbag    pirate
20/02/2012 at 17:56
OK maybe not...cheers fb...I thought it was well over subscribed....I just feel like a bit of a challenge...but would also fancy a bit of what's happening this year that might appeal to me?

Yeah, sorry to barge in just like's been a while...hope you're keeping well matey...
20/02/2012 at 18:54
Ratbag - this year and last they've actually had 2 etapes a few days apart - different stages of the Tour - think that has made it easier to get into as it's doubled the places available. As far as getting in I'm not sure how quickly the places sell out - I don't think it is a lottery but I may be wrong - you might still be able to get a place as part of a tour package ?

I'm doing the Marmotte which is similar - but I'm pretty certain that has sold out now - there are lots of others dotted around though - I was looking at which one to do but went for the Marmotte again as I know others going down for it so it was that with a group or something else on my own. Have a look at Circuit of Mont Blanc or the Maratona - they look interesting alternatives.
VTd    pirate
25/02/2012 at 18:45

I had to search well back to find this through the spam.

I have a second hand trek 2.1 which I intend using as my main bike for a couple of years.  I was never fitted for it, and it feels relatively comfortable, although I recognise and acknowledge the importance of a bike fit.

I am a newcomer to bikes (at 50!), and as such I am building my mileage gradually iaw the Fink program.  I have cycled numerous 20-30 milers, a couple of 40's and today managed my longest mileage to date, 55 quite hilly and breezy miles @ 15.5 av mph.

My problem is a tighteness across my shoulders and neck which led to me suffering fatigue long before my legs tired.  I googled the problem and read quite a few threads on different forums with the obvious different answers.  I have been stretching my back out and roll my shoulders more and more frequently on the go and as the miles build up, but the burn still niggles on.

Q1.  Will this ease as I get used to the longer days in the saddle or should I have that bike fit now?  I don't want to spend unecessarily if the tightness is something that will ease with my core strength training, and with time on the road.

Q2.  Should I go for a basic fit now, or would the rather expensive retul fit at my LBS be worth my money with the inevitable spend on new bits.

I am not avoiding spending money, just trying to avoid needlessly spending money if I just need to harden up.

Edited: 25/02/2012 at 19:07
cougie    pirate
25/02/2012 at 20:38
I'd vote for keeping at it. Was this just on your longest ride ? You've added a. Extra hour or so to the normal rides so you'd expect it to be a bit harder ?
It will probably get better as you get used to it.
25/02/2012 at 20:47
VT'd,Just wondering if it could be your cycle helmet being to low at the front so you have to force your head up to see where your going.I had to remove the peak off mine last year and the neck pain isnt as bad now.
Cortina5    pirate
25/02/2012 at 20:54

I normally get something similar, but not today. That said I am doing daily shoulder excercises at the moment.

Good idea Spongecake! 

Nicko. Hdau    pirate
25/02/2012 at 20:56
Handlebar width could be another factor too. If you have 42cm bars you may need 44.
VTd    pirate
25/02/2012 at 20:56

Thanks  Cougie, it only started to annoy me after about 40 odd miles.  I'm happy to now gradually build on today, which was a big jump up for me.

I had my tyres at about 110psi and the road was very bumpy and chewed up.  I read that this combination can transmit right through the bars to my shoulders if my grip on the bars isn't relaxed. 

I seem to spend a lot of time on the hoods, only dropping down when I'm pushing along a flat, is that usual?

Since I ride on my own at present (my local bike club are pacing too quick at an average of 19mph for me to join their weekend rides),  my beginners questions must find their way to here.

Nicko. Hdau    pirate
25/02/2012 at 21:00
Im comfy on the huds and prefer that way on my road bikes. Its only the TT bike I drop down on.
VTd    pirate
25/02/2012 at 21:01

Thanks Guys, I will investigate all suggestions.  The (new) helmet was a bit low at front SpongeCake, I noticed the drips of sweat hanging at the front.

NH, also thanks I read that somewhere about handlebar width.

Cat, what shoulder exercises do you include? 

I'm doing press-ups as well as weights and sit-ups to improve my posture/core strength, but I would welcome any other advice/exercise.

25/02/2012 at 21:07
This cycle lark can be pretty painful,my lower back was aching like hell today.Think I had the seat a little low,so going to have a tinker with positioning in the morning.
Rafiki    pirate
25/02/2012 at 21:14

Hi VT'd - I have a Trek 2.1 as well for commuting on - have you thought about either dropping the height of the bars, or raising them if they're low already? Its fairly easy to do and might be worth a try before investing in more expensive solutions.

There's various web sites that will explain what angles you're suppose to have between your back/shoulder and other body parts . Whilst these are not always the perfect position, its often a good starting point - worked for me!

Cortina5    pirate
25/02/2012 at 21:21

Physio has me moving my arms up/down in front of me in an arc with a theraband stretched between then. I'm trying to free up a previsouly separated shoulder.

I also spent about half of the ride following a wheel so not looking very far in the distance, which may account for something.

VTd    pirate
25/02/2012 at 21:34

Cheers Cat, I have enough aches and pains in my hips, knees and ankles for my physio to play with without burdening him with yet another of my defects.

Did you have the new PX bike out Spongecake or was that someone else who just bought one?

RafikiD, I often think about swapping to a more upright type geometry like the Defy or Roubaix.  But I've never tried them, just read that they might be more distance friendly for someone creaky like me.

25/02/2012 at 22:39


I did a big ride today and my hands,  arms, neck etc are also a bit smashed.......
You are supporting yourself on the hoods etc with your arems, hands and neck under tension.  It takes time to buid the muscles up

I find try bars help for the  shoulders/arms/hands, but the neck gets worse........

oh and i ride on the hoods, or tri bars if fitted... the only tiimes i use the drops is when I am scared going down hill....

26/02/2012 at 05:54
VT'd not me with the PX bike must have been someone else.I have a cheap and cheerful Dawes sportif that I got in a sale.
27/02/2012 at 16:04
Hi,I had a proper numpties bike crash on Sunday morning.I was halfway through my 30 mile ride when I thought I would try a slightly different route.I turned off the main road and headed down through a small car park.As i slowed my glasses steamed up a bit and as I went round the side of the building I started to speed up.I looked up and the sun was really shining in my eyes.It was then that I felt myself take off and fly through the air, upside down with my bike still clipped to my feet abit like a somersault with a bike.I landed quite heavily and looked up.I had ridden straight in a barrier that was across the road.I stood up and dusted myself down and had a sheepish look about to see if anyone had seen my truly spectacular bike gymnastics,luckily no-one was about.I walked over to my bike and the triple gear shifter on the left hand side was smashed to pieces.
Anyway to cut a long story short,Has any of you guys and girls got a spare left hand triple gear change 8 speed that you would like to sell me.The one i smashed was a Shimano 2300 triple shifter.
cougie    pirate
27/02/2012 at 16:24
LOL - sorry not got the shifter - but maybe Ebay ?

Congratulations on a spectacular crash though. Is there any chance there was CCTV around ? I'm just curious.
27/02/2012 at 16:41
I hope not cougie Lol,but you never know.Will have to keep an eye on Youve been Framed
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