Nutritional strategy - Page 3 - Triathlon

Gumps

27/07/2005 at 14:35

If I wee on them it will just soften them up

candy ollier

27/07/2005 at 14:39

i don't see the problem with it going in your shoe. that's my ideal solution, unless i'm wearing sealskinz, in which case its nasty.

candy ollier

27/07/2005 at 14:41

gumps, take it from me, eating things that have been standing in wee in a bento box for 2 hours is very nasty.

"look before you eat" is my new motto.

Gumps

27/07/2005 at 14:42

I shouldn't think it is any worse than the wifes cooking

candy ollier

27/07/2005 at 14:45

lol, unless its maltloaf. all the colour comes out, it turns a horrible off white colour. and the wee in the bento turns to brown sludge. the whole thing makes you want to throw up. unfortunately i was trying to get round the vitruvian course 4 times before they locked up the car park, so i was cncentrating on the road and not looking at what i was eating. i did wonder why it tasted like sh!t though.

ergo-phobic

27/07/2005 at 22:51

sports nutrition does my head in. it's ok as long as i don't think about it too much, otherwise i start thinking 'what's the point of training my body to metabolise fat efficiently if, during a race, i just top it up with carbohydrates and expect it to use them?'

(i know there is a logic behind it, but i end up tying myself up in knots)

candy ollier

28/07/2005 at 17:38

there's a limit to how much carbohydrate you can aborb, generally somewhere in the range 60-100grams per hour. or about 240-400 calories. so you can't take enough carbs to fuel your race fully. the shortfall has to be made up from stored glycogen, and fat burning. glycogen capacity is something like 1800-2000 calories, so that runs out quickly, and the balance has to come from fat metabolisation. over an 140 mile race, being able to burn 500 cals/hour of fat rather than 250 cals/hour can make a huge difference.

Chaos

28/07/2005 at 17:52

And don't women burn proportionately more fat and less carbs during equivalent intensity endurance exercise (or something like that)?

Actually to go back to your question, I understood that the carbs you ingest during exercise largely go to supplying your brain with glycogen and thus prevent it going into shutdown mode where it tells the body to slow down. Your muscles on the other hand get little of this ingested carb and instead have to burn fat once muscle and liver glycogen start to run out. So the phrase "fat burns in the flame of carbs" is only indirectly correct.

Equally I may be talking a load of les boules de chien.

candy ollier

28/07/2005 at 17:53

women are fatter if that's what you mean

Avalaf

28/07/2005 at 17:55

Your body has to use up energy converting fuel for the brain into Fructose I think, but it doesn't stop the rest of your body getting any it just slows the process down.

candy ollier

28/07/2005 at 17:57

thinking isn't free, apparently

Lindi - Livin' the dream :-) pirate

pirate

28/07/2005 at 17:59

Who you calling fat?

In a random sample of Pirates I think the men are fatter than the women!

Avalaf

28/07/2005 at 18:05

The things we do to make you women feel better.

ergo-phobic

28/07/2005 at 18:10

i'm not sure if i have 500cal/hour to spare for the duration of an ironman.

Lindi - Livin' the dream :-) pirate

pirate

28/07/2005 at 18:16

Don't worry ergo, despite Candy thinking girls are all fatter, I don't have that much to spare but managed to put on weight during the week we were in Zurich.

So long as you eat plenty on the bike you'll be fine, and the smaller you are the less lard you have to get up the hills :-)

Women tend to have a higher body fat percentage but I don't know if they burn it more easily.

Iron Rose

28/07/2005 at 18:22

I think I generally get thru about 8000-9000 cals per IM done. Takes a bit of practise to shove all that stuff down your face during the race.

I didn't use any solid foods this year tho, just gels and drinks. Doesn't mean to say the stomach was happy but you get used to it.

The nutrition is a very important part of the training as we know but until you get into the longer more intense stuff a bit later on down the line you can read more about it now than worry about putting it into practise.

I think most of the pirates will agree tho after IMCH that we weren't wrong when it was stated that nutrition was the 4th discipline. Unfortunately even the best laid out plans can go to pot on the day but you can only plan for what you can predict so don't get too wrapped up in it so early on.

For now, try to work out what your body might use per hour and what sort of foods/drinks/gels you can use to replace it and have fun practising.

As for chicken wraps, donuts, malt loafs and iced gems, each to their own.

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