Outlaw 2013

They did a double blind test with two groups who had no idea why they were being tested. One group did swimming the other running then they reversed. After training they provided a free buffet and used hidden cameras to record what people ate. The swimmers always ate more.

They have no real cuase but did wonder if swimming lowered core body temperature by a fraction and so human need says get food now to rev the engine.

So swimming probably does make you hungrier than running but you don;t always need the intake.

I think I read somewhere that doing easyish exercise makes you feel hungry, whereas if the exercise is more intense/harder you tend not to feel hungry afterwards. I know when I am swimming it generally does not feel as hard as when I run, (the exception would be coached sessions where we are doing some kind of speed thing). Can't remember where I read that though

IronCat5 in the Hat wrote (see)

I often feel sick after a track session or hard run. Though the XC league does put on a good buffet... I eat loads then suffer GI issues all afternoon.

Now thats an image I hadnt planned on this morning. And instantly, im trying to recal my last deposit........

Last time I floated one off to Tilbury it was a very satisfying 3. I've just finished the morning coffee, so I'll be taking advantage of the office facilities shortly.

Whilst eating my toast and marmite this morning I was pondering.

I've heard the term that the bike section of an IM can be like a buffet use it to refuel from the swim and prepare for the run. Now I wondered marmite is salty ... bread is carbs ... bagels low GI slow release fuel. Therefore would a toasted bagel with marmite be good on the bike? Or do I need high GI foods (I had mini malt loaf on my half)?

i have had cheese and marmite sandwiches................in the past i have not really gone very technical on the bike....i have chosen foods that i like so i will be tempted by them and ones that are cheap...........and ones that don't cause stomach problems

might start to look at it a bit more technically this year

Is there a right and wrong type of stool?  Clearly type 7 is a little unfortunate... but of the others, I wonder what might cause such clearly defined structures!

On more 'on topic' note... what events are people doing in the build up to Outlaw...  This is my list so far...  

Winter Tanners (Run)
Punchbowl (Run)
Thanet 20 (Run)
Hell of Ashdown (Bike)
King of the Downs (bike) 
7 Oaks Circular (Run)
LDWA SD Mara (Run
Kent Castles 100 (Bike)
Chiltern 100 (Bike)
SD Mara (Run)

And I am looking for more to do.... God the LDWA otherwise I would be broke.  But there are some bike gaps in there and I am on the lookout for long bike rides in the locality of Kent/Sussex/Essex.... might stretch to Surrey at a pinch.  I need to squeeze a half IM in there somewhere too...  where is the DIY thread?  

I'll be doing the 5K swimathon and a DIY Oly and Half at home as I'm skint and spend too much time doing teacher stuff to afford weekends doing tri stuff

Seren I've only really done 1 proper long ride which was my half - SIS drink and a mini malt loaf per lap (4 laps) or per hour 'cos I is slow

I did the L2B ride but that was stop start, bacon roll standing in field, stop stop start, chocolate in a field etc

I'm planning to do the DIY half and the chiltern 100. other than that I will be on the look out for some more cycle events in Bedfordshire area and either some local shorter tri's or swimming events involving open water swims.

I'd like to maybe do a sea swim event  sometime next year to decide if a sea based ironman is a possibility for another year.

does anyone know if the lake at Holme pierrepoint is open for swimming at all other than for the outlaw and 1/2 outlaw? I might take a trip up to to take a look at the bike course one weekend and if I could suss out the lake too would be even more worthwhile

honk I believe one of the tri clubs uses Holme

Forgot I am also doing a 52m sportive in April which is a 9m ride away thereby giving me a 70m ride!

Thanks Pixie, a quick search showed that there were coached sessions available last year on a Wed or Fri evening for £10.

http://www.absolute-triathlon-coaching.co.uk/coached-open-water-swimming.html

friday night swim followed by a lap of bike route on a Saturday sounds like a good plan if they do similar next year, anyone else fancy this? just an idea at the moment, will need to get organised with a suitable date nearer the time.

there are some cheap sportiffs around if you shop about.  Also worth keeping an eye on the audax site - it's a bit like LDWA but for bikes.  Lots of long beards and mudguards so you will look a bit of a nonce if you turn up on a TT bike.  But on a regular road bike you will fit in and can get some extraordinary rides for very little money.

I'm doing some DIY (at home) long bricks and 1/2ish IM distance days.  I would love to join SA's group, but his gaff is bllody miles away from me so I will support from a distance! 

Thanks, PSC, Audax site looks good, Pencilled in a couple of possibilities.

PSC.i forgot about the chiltern 100 but will have to see the date as have a half ironman  on june 2

See you at the Tanners - no entry on the day again this year so remember to book. Definitely value for money. Did 5:43 last year which was a PB by about an hour but it was a very quick route (flat & good dry tracks). Expect I will be back closer to 7 this year.

M..eface