Outlaw 2013

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Dustboy    pirate
25/07/2012 at 21:41

Sod Oxton Bank BTW, the six mile descent after is an absolute PEACH!

PSC    pirate
25/07/2012 at 21:43

cheers Dusty - where have you saved it.  Garmin Connect isn't giving me the love....


purpletrilady    pirate
25/07/2012 at 21:46
PSC wrote (see)

TG - yep, I would be up for some long rides... might find there are a few others on the list from our neck of the woods too. 

Does anyone have a garmin trace of the outlaw bike route - how hilly is it?  Thinking of designing some training routes.


I'm in your neck of the woods 

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
25/07/2012 at 21:46
Dustboy wrote (see)

PSC, I've got it on Garmin 800 no idea how to get it freely available though. 110.87 miles, 2457 feet elevation, gladly post it up if someone knows how.

Hang on, I've had a go at saving as a course. Log on and type in Outlaw 2012 Pit Stop Crew 

See if it works. Anyone else for that matter

So only 800m climbing, thats probably as easy course as you can get, pan flat courses are actually harder in my opinion as there's little respite as youre pushing the same gear all the time.

PSC    pirate
25/07/2012 at 21:54

I reckon Florida might be flatter, but not many of the other courses will be so smooth.

PTL - yep, another local.  I've only been on the bike a few times this year so need to get some serious miles in before I can think about longer rides...

25/07/2012 at 22:00

I know this won't make much sense at all but I felt like a LOT of Outlaw bike course was downhill and that's not really geographically possible!

It's certainly the flattest least hilly course of the ones of I've done - it's easier than Copenhagen, PSC.  However, it was windy as a windy person who lives in a windmill in Windmill Town when we did it this year which MORE than makes up for the lack of lumps.

I'm reliably informed that whilst it was very, very windy this year, it is rarely still on that bike course.

I also think it's much better organised that Challenge Copenhagen.  There are less frills in terms of absolutely no nice bag or gimmicky gift but you can buy a rucksack if you want one (I think around £20/£25) and we paid 330E for Copenhagen and £225 for Outlaw, so I'd rather save the £100.  The feedstations on both bike and run course were (in my opinion) better equiped that Copenhagen and possibly seemed more frequent to me (but that might have been my imagination).

I rated it very highly indeed.


Edited: 25/07/2012 at 22:01
Bouncing Barlist    pirate
25/07/2012 at 22:11

PSC ive done Florida which has a pan flat bike course, its zero incline except for one bridge you got over.  So youre in pretty much the same gear all ride which trashes the legs a lot more than having a few gentle undulations like at Outlaw which give you a chance to change gear and cadence a bit.  Even though Outlaw isnt hilly as such there are enough down hill bits you can spin out on and freewheel for a rest.

I didnt find it overly windy, sure there were some tough spells into the wind but I noticed the benefit in other sections of the course, at least the wind was fairly consistant and not blustering all over the place. 

25/07/2012 at 22:19
The Silent Assassin wrote (see)
Schmunkee - The List Fairy wrote (see)
Is this likely to be beat Henley for the number of pirates attending?

More chance of getting the orsum pirate feed station going again, or was the plan to move it to Henley?



Nicko. Hdau wrote (see)

Ian and his band of merry people have been good with us for the last few years since the 1st race.
Just wondering as most will be doing Henley as the champs race, or Lanza!
Are we still organising a posse for the feed station or just moving on?


Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

I posted a reply on another thread yesterday, personally I would like to see the Pirate feedstation as an enduring aspect at Outlaw.  Its the biggest UK race and think it reflects well on us to give something back. 

I also think that by giving something to others we reap the benefits in the support you get as a pirate, ive been to races all over and had complete strangers shouting for me, that counts for a lot and I think the support we give to others (including the feedstation at Outlaw) reaps this payback.  Its also good fun

Its early days yet but id imagine we'll need to canvass for support in the new year, I know a number of people have already said theyre keen to help.

Next year id like to make it even bigger and better, akin to one of the Ironman feestations you get on the continent, ive a few ideas up my sleave


Schmunkee - The List Fairy wrote (see)
I also posted on this years Support Thread that we hope for The Pirate Feed Station to continue and although Barley and I are happy to organise it in the run up to the day, we would like to hand over responsibility of the day itself to others so that we may see Pirates and non-Pirates over the whole course as we have not so far been able to do so


PSC    pirate
25/07/2012 at 22:22
Thanks Mouse, the direct comparison between Copenhagen (which I loved) and outlaw (which sounds better) is really useful. Lol at the windier than a windy thing in a windmill.

BB I knew you had bagged Florida and remember you blogging about its flatness.
WildWill    pirate
25/07/2012 at 22:25
The wind killed me ... Being the worst cyclist in the world
25/07/2012 at 22:51

I think the wind was slightly stronger at our end of the bike course Will!  Well, that's my excuse!  

Dustboy    pirate
25/07/2012 at 23:00

Deffo saved in my courses, no idea how to get it public though, it;'s not a logical system!

25/07/2012 at 23:50
So now the pirate champs 2013 is in Lanza ( meldy decides after all)

Where are we going in 2014?

Oh when's the 10 yr anniversary
And let's go to the states for that!!!!
The Silent Assassin    pirate
26/07/2012 at 08:32

Like OC asked, when is the 10 year anniversay? and do we go back to to the first place?

We might need a seperate thread

Mrs SA is currently torn between Outlaw and Henely and we are so sallow probably go with the masses, but we have made a comitment to follow the PSOF on the 10 year anniversary

 Hmmm she could do both, hmmmm Jaffa has done both, wonders which he liked best


Edited: 26/07/2012 at 08:34
26/07/2012 at 08:35
2015 is the anniversary
26/07/2012 at 10:07
M..o.use wrote (see)


I'm reliably informed that whilst it was very, very windy this year, it is rarely still on that bike course.


I live along the outlaw course, and while I haven't really done any particularly long bike rides I can vouch that the area is not normally particularly windy. This year on the day of Outlaw it was very windy, but that is not normal for here at all.

26/07/2012 at 10:10

I think as others have said the championships should stay as planned so Lanza and then Helney for people not wanting to travel.

Outlaw is it's own race and I suspect in time might become the pirate newbies race as thats another reason it's popular. It seems the cheapest easiest course for us newbies to try.

Flatter than flat bike with lots of wind = perfect for a Normal for Norfolk type such as myself

seren nos    pirate
26/07/2012 at 10:28

only one championship race I believe........so it looks like it will stay as Henly..........I'm happy with that....I am just pleased to have so many pirates doing my A race........i was just a bit worried as Henley doesn't seem to be having much activity or enthusiam.........maybe because its the old hands who are doing it...........

i have done myu first brick session in a few years today............60 min bike 30 min run

Lee the Pea    pirate
26/07/2012 at 11:19
Schmunkee - The List Fairy wrote (see)
2015 is the anniversary

Cool, i'll turn 40 that year (argggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg) and was planning my IM re-attempt then, most likely   Need to work on all three sports first to get better then give it another go.

IM Cozumel looks ace   

I agree that this year's champs should be Lanza, as that waa decided ages ago. I guess it is just money and difficulty that are stopping the masses from going.

Iron Pingu    pirate
26/07/2012 at 11:21

At turn 40 at Outlaw next year!

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