Outlaw last minute questions ??

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28/06/2012 at 11:24
I will stick with the immodium and scrub the anal sex ( never use something new on race day)
I occasionally take the odd couple of ibos on long rides if my back is playing up and carry a couple IF i need them during races but i aint munching em like smarties are a couple of ibos going to affect you medically? After all they are designrd to be taken when in pain wheres Flowerpower when you need her shes a doc
cougie    pirate
28/06/2012 at 11:31

I see we are allowed gloves and booties for the swim now ?  I've not used booties for swimming before but I do have some thick ones for kayaking in. Do you reckon I'll be OK swimming in them ?  (I may check they float before I try this !)

Symes    pirate
28/06/2012 at 11:53

Cougie - in 18C surely not that cold is it?

28/06/2012 at 12:02

Dustboy will surely be wearing his Gimp mask as well as the gloves and booties!!  

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
28/06/2012 at 12:05

Gloves?  I know the Blue Seventy booties are approved for racing Ironman (loads were wearing them at Coeur D'Alene) but im surprised about the gloves, my Blue Seventy ones are webbed and would definately give a swim advantage.

Anyway, its not really cold though is it.

cougie    pirate
28/06/2012 at 12:10

Is it 18 ? I've just seen it described as mid teens - which is a bit cold for me - I was getting cool in the lake I use at 15 degrees. By comparison Frankfurt was 25 degrees 2 years back. 

BB - you cant use webbed gloves - that isnt allowed - but normal neoprene ones are OK. 

28/06/2012 at 12:21
Based on sea swims down here which have been fine i am going with 2 swim caps and the wetsuit and should be fine and i feel the cold
28/06/2012 at 12:26

I was in the sea last night - 16C - no gloves or boots and a single swimcap.  I was warm enough to strip the wettie off in the water at the end.  OK - it was only 30mins but you'll be fine without extra stuff

 

28/06/2012 at 12:32

On the grounds tha  my hands an feet are normally like block of ice, it's probably not going to bother me too much!! Just make sure there's enough fluid on board for the emergency heating system if required!

28/06/2012 at 12:32

Removed cos of a double post!! Blooming computer!

Edited: 28/06/2012 at 12:33
28/06/2012 at 13:48

BTF rule book states;

 

9 Swimming

9.1 Competitors shall use no aid other than a cap, goggles, nose clip and costume, which may be a wetsuit, for open water swims.

9.2 A wetsuit may consist of up to three separate parts. the wearing of wetsuit leggings only, gloves and/or socks is not permitted. The maximum permitted thickness of material is 5mm. This thickness also applies to any overlap of material/s.

 

 

seren nos    pirate
28/06/2012 at 13:56

looks like outlaw have overruled for some reason....................I have blue seventy booties and gloves..............

the boots definitely slow you down.so take that into condsideration................you will also be swimming a bit harder than normal due to the race situation.....

and the gloves are definitely slightly web so would give an advantage..........not sure  how they will marshal that

seems like a silly change as people should have been used to swimming in the cold if they have prepared.............the lakes have been colder than usual this year

28/06/2012 at 13:58
marshallini wrote (see)

BTF rule book states;

 

9 Swimming

9.1 Competitors shall use no aid other than a cap, goggles, nose clip and costume, which may be a wetsuit, for open water swims.

9.2 A wetsuit may consist of up to three separate parts. the wearing of wetsuit leggings only, gloves and/or socks is not permitted. The maximum permitted thickness of material is 5mm. This thickness also applies to any overlap of material/s.

 

 

From OSB's email this morning:

"If you need neoprene booties and gloves to help keep you warm, then we have no issues with this - just as long as they are not webbed."

 

28/06/2012 at 13:59

At the Slateman they allowed boots and gloves (not webbed tho) but if you did wear them you were ineligible for any prizes.

(OSB email - missed the bit about booties when I read it)

Edited: 28/06/2012 at 14:02
28/06/2012 at 14:15

the BTF rule book is correct but Race Directors have discretion to apply variations to the rules that are compatible with racing provided that a) the BTF is notified in advance (or within 48hrs if a last minute change), and that b) it's applied to all athletes.

in OSBs case by notifying everyone in advance they are compliant with BTF rules - as were Slateman (the ineligibility rule is usually applied in variation circumstances)

what you can't do as an athlete is rock up to the swim in boots and gloves if this variation hasn't been announced and expect to race.    you will be asked to remove them.

we had a right barney with a Canadian guy at Challenge Henley last year (there was no varition in place) who turned up in neoprene boots and expected to race.  he stormed off when we told him he couldn't race unless he took them off.  "I've come all this way from Canada blah blah blah...".  he came back 5 mins later wearing compression socks - so we told him to take them off (calf guards are allowed but not socks).  he claimed he needed them for hypothermia - "OK where's the med cert and have you declared this to the RD".  no he hadn't done either.  get them off then.  more argument but he gave in in the end and raced without - and finished.   

 

 

Edited: 28/06/2012 at 14:16
28/06/2012 at 14:20

the resulting frostbite required the amputation of both feet, but that'll serve him right for thinking he can come over here and expect to play by his own, namby-pamby, not even a proper Yank, rules

cougie    pirate
28/06/2012 at 14:25

Aah well if booties make you slower then I clearly dont want them ! 

At our local lake we've had guys in shorty wetsuits, compression socks and trainers and paddles. They do a lap in the water, then run out and around the lake, and then run back into the water, and keep repeating. Any idea what thats for ? V odd. 

M.r Zuvai    pirate
28/06/2012 at 14:26

I use blue seventy gloves down here when it's a bit chilly - and even they slow me up!

they are webbed so you do get more pull - but they act like a break during the entry part of the stroke

i certainly swim much better without them

 

28/06/2012 at 14:28

cougs - sounds like they're training for O to O -http://www.otillo.se/

28/06/2012 at 14:29
cougie wrote (see)

Aah well if booties make you slower then I clearly dont want them ! 

At our local lake we've had guys in shorty wetsuits, compression socks and trainers and paddles. They do a lap in the water, then run out and around the lake, and then run back into the water, and keep repeating. Any idea what thats for ? V odd. 

Maybe for this race?? http://www.otillo.se/

It was mentioned in another thread!!

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