Pirate outings in 2014

Is it to early to start the debate?

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Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
08/02/2013 at 10:51

Seren - it's actually an anti-drugs law - used to be legal to sell  Mary Jane etc. to anyone in Amsterdam,  now it's only legal to sell it to their own citizens. Doesn't contravene EU regs since drugs are illegal everywhere else anyway.

IronCat5    pirate
08/02/2013 at 13:08
Bionic Ironwolf wrote (see)

Seren - it's actually an anti-drugs law - used to be legal to sell  Mary Jane etc. to anyone in Amsterdam,  now it's only legal to sell it to their own citizens. Doesn't contravene EU regs since drugs are illegal everywhere else anyway.

I would have thought the fact that it's illegal anywhere else is wholly irrelevant. EU = same rules for everyone (apart from Wales and Scotland ).

Edited to say I do not condone the taking of such substances.

Edited: 08/02/2013 at 13:09
Bouncing Barlist    pirate
08/02/2013 at 17:50

Just to get the thread back on track, my preference is still for Sweden.

Ive been thinking about the issue of cost over the last week, two things spring to mind:

Challenge Henley is cheap as chips and UK based yet how many people have entered!
Not all those promoting Henley as the Pirate championship this year are going. 

Lanza was my first choice for 2014 and I think with hindsight it was probably the best option, I worry that we should aim to get good support and commitment for whichever event is chosen for 2014 or just accept not all Pirate Championships are going to be large scale affairs?

As ive said before I dont think cost should be a major factor in considerations, it should be about trying something different and new locations, also taking in the big events and Ironman branded events where possible.

As far as im aware the contenders for 2014 are:

IM Sweden
Challenge Barcelona
Challenge Almere

M...eldy    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:15

I do agree with that Barlos but (to sit on the fence a bit) I think it should be a mixture of all those ingredients
We need to get as many people out and about as we can, it needs to be accessible but we dont want to limit ourselves to the UK, I think Henley has fallen foul of some planning doubts and people may well be reservning their entries until that is comfirmed

I would love Sweden but I very much doubt I could afford that .... Barcelona & Almere equally appealing
IM Wales was being bandied about a bit ... that could be a contender as much as Lanza was/is the year?

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:30

Ah but we couldnt do Lanza as it wasnt newbie friendly, you reep what you sow

Wales isnt a bad choice but it would  be UK 3 years in a row!

seren nos    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:33
We are going abroad in2015
Rafiki    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:34
Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

Ah but we couldnt do Lanza as it wasnt newbie friendly, you reep what you sow

Now you tell me!!!

And, just for info - Henley seems to have been resolved.

purpletrilady    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:35

Surely Wales is just as beginner unfriendly as Lanza?

Selfishly I would prefer something later in the year as I may have plans for June 2014

Challenge Barcelona & Almere both look good,

 

M...eldy    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:42

No I realiseWales is not beginner friendly, I think the discussion came about following Barlos' comment about the fact that it doesnt necc need to be ... it ticks the IM box and the Accessible box and the cost effective box and was an option

I think we will see a big pirate contingent at a UK event most years from now on as it seems to suit those who have holiday/family restrictions

Which one will get the PSOF Champs status is the question perhaps?

kittenkat    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:44

Depends what you want, I sailed with the ship when it just was what it was, no thought of 'beginner friendly'. I think Barley said it earlier (or in another life), they're all hard.

It depends what 'you', whoever 'you' are wants. I get the sense that there's a scrabble by some to try and fuse everyone and everything. My thoughts are that the main body of the Pirates, those people who turn up every year to the designated IM decide, and like Smiffy said everyone else will follow. You know who you are and you're mainly not posting on here, which is fine but it leaves the new people posting in here a bit apprehensive.

I think what I'm trying to say is that the Pirates need an online communication base, if it's moved from here and you still want to be all inclusive, someone needs to maybe put their mind to it?

Edited: 08/02/2013 at 18:47
M...eldy    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:48

Purple ... You cant get much later in the year than Wales !

kittenkat    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:49

Fuck me, a serious post! I must still have some affection for the good bits, actually I do. Me and D really enjoyed Nice.

08/02/2013 at 18:53

Lets have a UK race and an outside the UK.

Seems to me with 17 races in the UK to choose from (ok, things like the Brutal are a little hardcore).

So if its Challenge Almere and IM Wales, for example then that should suit most pockets and desires.

Looks like the Feedstation at the Outlaw is here to stay so that will always be a great first race for those a bit worried about Iron distances.

Doozer.    pirate
08/02/2013 at 18:57
What about challenge Copenhagen - fast and beginner friendly!
kittenkat    pirate
08/02/2013 at 19:02
Flat Foo..ted wrote (see)

Looks like the Feedstation at the Outlaw is here to stay so that will always be a great first race for those a bit worried about Iron distances.

We were all a bit worried about Iron distances... However the culture used to be that you could support new Pirates to any IM, and I do think that it worked. However irrespective of course I do think that an affordable option to normal people is welcome. For me it was a bit like pulling a playing card from the deck, I decided on 2008, the card I got was Nice. I never questioned it but it did come at a time I could afford it and I can't now.

M...eldy    pirate
08/02/2013 at 19:07

Good idea Mr Foot
We can have two award ceremonies as well   

M...eldy    pirate
08/02/2013 at 19:08

PSOF UK Champs
PSOF World Champs


Rafiki    pirate
08/02/2013 at 19:11

 not sure I've got enough room on my shelf for two sets of trophies

purpletrilady    pirate
08/02/2013 at 19:21
M...eldy wrote (see)

Purple ... You cant get much later in the year than Wales !

I know ! But its a hard one and not beginner friendly. There is no way I could have done Wales in my first year.

How about a hard core UK one and a nice easy flat Eurpean one?

 

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
08/02/2013 at 19:22
no need for two award ceremonies, not a problem people taking part in different races, some uk based, some abroad (we've been doing it for years) but there should only be one pirate championship event.
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