thanks cougie. i'll round it up slightly.
i'll check about the skuffing you mention. it looks like the design is done with a film wrapped around the bottle. the bottles on the site look pretty tough though. also, if you subscribed to triathlete europe and got the free bottle (that's what got me thinking about it as every bottle i have is branded differently showing my individuality), it's the same people we're getting to make ours. read a website that just said look on your nice bottles and see who made them.
actually the cervelo test team made teh nicest bottle i've got, but i couldn't track down the maker i think. or they needed something like 5000 ordered minimum which is a few bottles beyond us.