Pre-requisite for IM - discuss

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Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
30/05/2008 at 21:06

Long-time German pro Lothar Leder and wife Nicole (she won IMDE last year) have written a training book for IM, in which Lothar states that a must for an IM finish is the ability to run a 3 to 4 hour marathon. He states that a 5-hour marathoner will find it pretty near impossible to finish an IM.  Obviously he's never heard of the Pirates nor seen a large majority walking the run course.

The Trickster    pirate
30/05/2008 at 21:09
No discussion needed. It's bollox.
30/05/2008 at 21:10
pre-requisite = frontal lobotomy
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
30/05/2008 at 21:13
to me it points up the immense gulf between top pros and the rest of us - from their 8 hour finish viewpoint  they cannot comprehend those of us out on the course for 14 or 15 hours. Having said that, I've met Lothar and he's  a very nice bloke, just doesn't understand the ordinary mortals.
30/05/2008 at 21:20

abso-bally-lutely.

what a wally.

well done for outing him, IW.

pah.

30/05/2008 at 21:20
pleh, even.
M...eldy    pirate
30/05/2008 at 21:37
yeah what she said



load of old twaddle
Crash Hamster    pirate
30/05/2008 at 21:41
He'll be suggesting that you have to know how to swim next
30/05/2008 at 21:43

Excellent - I can't do a sub-4 so no point in trying an IM.

That's a great relief for me

M...eldy    pirate
30/05/2008 at 22:01
got news for you Mitten
30/05/2008 at 22:06
30/05/2008 at 22:09

Ohh, and while I'm here can someone please boing the Liquid Leisure thread for me please.

Fanks

30/05/2008 at 22:09

I aint a triathlete

but this smacks of elitism to me

it doesnt take account of the sheer bloody mindedness of some people against the odds

(i depsise elitism with a passion)

mellifera    pirate
30/05/2008 at 22:15
i guess he thinks that if a 3hour marathoner does the IM mara in close to 4 hours then those doing 5hr+ for a standalone would take even longer. actually i think the slowest marathoners might not lose to much over their standalone. he also might not have taken into account that being a bit heavy is less of a disadvantage in biking (and not at all in a swim). 8hr bike, 6hr run, 2hr swim and you can finish an IM. the fact is he probably doesn't have much experience of slower athletes so doesn't know what's possible. fair enough - most of us have real trouble comprehending what doing a 9hr IM really means. which of us really understands what it means when Haille Gebresallassie runs an entire marathon at a pace many of us can't even do 400m at! It's so far out of my range of experience! I think you're right IW - the Leders just don't comprehend those at the back.
Edited: 30/05/2008 at 22:16
M...eldy    pirate
30/05/2008 at 22:29

I think the slower marathoners get closest to their marathon pbs than faster ones in IM


But I have no stats to back this up  

Doozer.    pirate
30/05/2008 at 22:46
i thought to do an Ironman you needed 3 houses 10 dogs and to swim 15 times a week.
cougie    pirate
30/05/2008 at 22:47
Nobber !
Not going to buy that book then !
Imeccentric    pirate
31/05/2008 at 07:18

Happily for the sport such ignorance is rare , Steve Bayliss and Bella raced SA and Jan gets a mench in his  race report.

Also I have met a lot of the pros in the bleachers when the last  finishers are coming in and the majority of them have great respect for the age groupers and simply cannot  believe that people are prepared to keep going for that long.

31/05/2008 at 07:20
ditto - I have had similar conversations with them, 'centric. A phrase several of them have used is: 'that's REAL endurance.'
debbo    pirate
31/05/2008 at 10:56

I hate dogs, does that mean I shouldn't do any more IMs?

and my stand alone marathon pb is only 20 minutes quicker than my IM marathon pb

but then I'm pants

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