PSOF Championships 2013 - Challenge Henley

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Iron Muffin    pirate
11/10/2012 at 14:12

Cheggers, good that you are planning real life into your training. An idea I picked up last year was to give Fink a go for a couple of weeks as a 'trial' before then plan was due to start.

This allowed me to tweak sessions around and find how best to plan trainng around my other commitments.

Don't worry about holidays, especially if you can fit then around your 'easy' 4th week. I think the periodisation piece is important so if you can build to a big week before an easy week then it work, and you will ski like a god  from the extra fitness.

M...eldy    pirate
11/10/2012 at 18:34

Cheggers ... I live in Wendover  

Rafiki    pirate
11/10/2012 at 18:35

 Cheggars you are in trouble now!!

M...eldy    pirate
11/10/2012 at 18:37

Damn right ... and you aren't out of the woods either Rafi!!

IronCat5    pirate
11/10/2012 at 20:39

I've seen Rafi climb hills like a rat up a drainpipe. He's in no danger

12/10/2012 at 10:30

Sounds like I should be nervous.......but I can do hills if needs be - Peter's Hill (is that what it's called?) in Risborough is my favourite round here.

Finking about Fink - I bet that's originial - is good at the moment because whatever I want to do it's still 3 months before I need to do anthing properly. Allowing for a few week's of holidays mid-January is 30 weeks before Henley - but I'm not sure allowing for holidays is really the way it should be done, although that's the way it may have to be done!

Hope    pirate
12/10/2012 at 12:08
Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)
Isn't there a dusk till dawn in Bristol ?

 

Iron Muffin wrote (see)

I will be there, probably half arsed.My head and heart are disconnected on which distance to enter!

Hope, I see you are down for the half. Have you stuck to the IM retirement plan?

Not retirement, but I don't want to do a full one next year. I'm saving myself for the Pirate b'day one.

I don't really have the inclination to do one every year and having done IMW and Outlaw fairly close together, I think a little break from the long LONG stuff is a good idea!



Hope    pirate
12/10/2012 at 12:10

Oh... dunno what the Barley quote is doing there! I'm not stalking him... honest!

IronCat5    pirate
12/10/2012 at 12:53
ChallengeCheggers wrote (see)

Sounds like I should be nervous.......but I can do hills if needs be - Peter's Hill (is that what it's called?) in Risborough is my favourite round here.

Finking about Fink - I bet that's originial - is good at the moment because whatever I want to do it's still 3 months before I need to do anthing properly. Allowing for a few week's of holidays mid-January is 30 weeks before Henley - but I'm not sure allowing for holidays is really the way it should be done, although that's the way it may have to be done!

Why not? You should perhaps allow 2 weeks latitude for sickness etc, so start 4 weeks early - either the first 4 weeks, or week1 x 4.

12/10/2012 at 13:07

Interesting. This was one of my questions - about starting early etc. I have one week with the tri. club in Lanza in March and there's bound to be other stuff (illness etc.) So, if I start a few weeks early to account for it, how would it work? What if I don't 'need' those buffer weeks in the end? Should I repeat one of the base weeks? If so, at which point do you decide you don't need those buffer weeks, thus 'removing' the leeway and head into the more intense periods.

I hope I'm making sense.

IronCat5    pirate
12/10/2012 at 13:46

What is your base fitness like UB? I started 2 weeks early, and had a week in Dec off ill, and some crappy days throughout. So I had a 12 week base, 10 week build and 10 week peak. Just get some time under your belt at the beginning.

I had a crappy week somewhere in April and missed most of that week. I started the following week with the following week's plan. The plan will sway to an extent to outside pressures (family/job/real life) i,e. stuff that really matters, not IM!

Over the ~30 weeks you will miss sessions, and afterwards you will know whether you needed to miss those, of whether you just needed to HTFU. You can draw upon this for next time. An example for me - off a plane on any given Thur after a full day. I feel tired, but after missing that workout early on, I know that I just had to get out and do it.

The week in Lanza should be easy - all that training and no real life to get in the way!

12/10/2012 at 19:22

Base fitness is OK. I completed my first middle distance a few weeks back without too much pain.I have been doing tri's for a season and a smidge. I'll be ticking over during the next few months and I'm looking to sort my ITBS problem with some strength work in the gym, before starting Fink intermediate at the appropriate time.

I'm aware that I will miss some sessions due to life, I was thinking of starting two weeks early much as you did. I'm guessing if you manage to stick to the plan 80-90% of the time - it'll all be alreet?

12/10/2012 at 19:57
I think you're doing much the same as I plan to UB. Allowing for my holidays (although the summer holidays do involve taking a bike to the Alps and doing some TDF climbs) I need to start on 13 Jan to get the full 30 weeks in (although my current base fitness is better than it has been for years).

I think I'm going to start on 6 Jan as the day Christmas finishes seems a good place to start - but all still subject to change. I've got a bike and a treadmill in the garage so the weather shouldn't matter too much.

I reckon I'll end up hitting the 80/90% amount of the plan too and if that's the best I can do that's just the way it'll have to be.
Blisters    pirate
12/10/2012 at 21:49

sh!T.

Formal planned training?

You mean that I'm not allowed to ham it up?

I've just purchased an important training motivation book by someone called Iron Holgs. It's my holiday read. I will need to get my head properly into gear.

13/10/2012 at 09:33

Good stuff Cheggers. Sounds like we can compare notes as we go!

The only other thing I'm currently thinking about is the ol' 'tri vs. road bike' debate. It seems there's a fair amount of climbing/descending on the course and I prefer doing both of those on the road bike. I'm also not currently convinced that I could stay aero for 112 miles. Also, my goal for the race is to finish within the cutoff, period, not to eek out 20 or 30 minutes extra from the bike leg...decisions decisions.

Blisters    pirate
13/10/2012 at 11:43

The evidence from my ride this morning is that if you have a comfy saddle you'll stay in it for longer. A happy rider is a focused rider. I'm not 100% happy yet. Especially one small part.

IronCat5    pirate
13/10/2012 at 13:54

Did some of the Henley route today. Forgot how lumpy it could be.

iron fraggle    pirate
13/10/2012 at 14:01

indeed  - and the road surface is pretty awful too!  Did you get wet Cat? it's been lashing down here this morning.

13/10/2012 at 14:55
Formal planned training - I don't think I'd call it that. I don't like the idea that I'm doing formal planned training!

You want to be careful about that Ironholgs book. I read it and I've a feeling that it is what planted the idea of doing and Ironman type event in my head.

My aim is just to finish too but it'll definitely be on a road bike and won't be aero. My back wouldn't take it!

Finally I was out on some of the present bike route earlier - I might even have waved at you Ironcat (I'll wave at anyone!). Road surface still crap but I was pleased about how low I could keep my HR whilst going up Pishill. That was my concession to the fact I'm running Henley Half marathon tomorrow - keep my HR down. No sign of rain when I was out (7.45 for 2 hours) - but it's been damp since. Currently at River & Rowing Museum with the children
Blisters    pirate
13/10/2012 at 17:37

uh oh

Unfinished sentence. He's been swept away.

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