PSOF Championships 2013 - Challenge Henley

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cougie    pirate
24/10/2012 at 10:52
Last day to get the cheap entry ?
Roll up roll up !!
24/10/2012 at 17:29


Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)
Doner Kebab wrote (see)

dont want to sound mean but - its ironman, ffs, if you want the title do the training, if youre doing outlaw you have already paid, stop thinking about your average speed, highest speed, lowest possible speed i could get away with if just make the swim cut off. you got 8 months to improve, training = improvement most of the time, you will improve, so that shitty 12 mph average will be a 14 mph average and you will have spent xx hours worrying about nothing. stop writing on the forums and get in the gym, stop reading the responses to the threads and get in an extra 30 minutes sweat fest on the turbo - be an IRONMAN, train like you really want it, if youre that close to the cuts, train some more ( but dont forget rest days )

"Swim 2.4 miles Bike 112 miles Run 26.2 miles Brag for the rest of your life "
but do the fcking training first then worry the month before, youll be so knackered you wont give a shit and youll just want it over and then itll be too late.

rant over

Good post, you can either prepare to fail or prepare to succeed, 8 months is a hell of a long time and if you train hard you should have nothing to worry about. 

As said, dont even think about 17 hours, thats for when the day goes wrong. 

If youre worried about your bike speed get out on your bike, ask yourself whether that 2 hour ride you did last weekend was enough, could you have done another hour, were you dead on your handlebars when you finished.  Have you been out on the bike/turbo'd twice this week? if not why not?

Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

Podds I don't agree with your last point, there is no good reason preventing anyone getting fast. What limits us is ambition and commitment. I'm sure both you and I could easily add 2mph to our Ironman average bike speed if we tried.

Many people who are strong on the bike do 200 miles+ week in week out.  I'll wager youll stuggle to find anyone who regularly averages even 100 miles a week who isnt ok on the bike.

Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

I understand the need to get an idea of your bike speed at this stage but whatever that is it shouldnt be looked at as a negative.  Your on start of a long long journey, the focus of which is to improve and adapt, massive improvements can be made but you get out what you put in, structured bike training certainly has benefits but even without structure if youre doing 100 miles a week youre soon going to see improvements.  Think about gearing up to doing 200 miles a week in peek training March-June next year and youll have nothing to worry about with bike speed.



Well I'm taking DK and  Coach at their word here. I was going to enter the half but then thought, sod it - JFDI. It might not be the easiest profile so that means I'll just have  get some hill training in and stop making excuses.

Oh and I paid £299 plus admin. I'm not arguing again

M...eldy    pirate
24/10/2012 at 17:30
O.rangeCannon - Extravalanza-ing wrote (see)
Oh and dont forgrt to add your name...

Meldy - you not entered yet?

Not yet .... cash flow wont change til next year

I'll be there, hopefully competing!!

24/10/2012 at 17:36

Oops - I appear to have mucked up the formatting. 

24/10/2012 at 17:38

And I've lost the end of my post - it should say not arguing against the few extra quid! 

24/10/2012 at 17:42

Soup - you could have Coach as a mentor now that he is mentee-less

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
24/10/2012 at 22:34

Im happy to help if I can but im a $hit mentor apparently

24/10/2012 at 22:37
I may enter this or challenge barcelona..... Not sure whuch yet....
25/10/2012 at 06:55
Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

Im happy to help if I can but im a $hit mentor apparently

lol Barley!  What I need is a person with a big stick to get me out in the cold wet weather and out of bed in a morning. I meant to do a run this morning but I've got up too late - it was dark. I'm such a wuss. 

I may regret asking for the big stick. 

25/10/2012 at 10:03
Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

Im happy to help if I can but im a $hit mentor apparently

You are being a tad unfair on yourself there , Coach.

You are very knowledgeable and a great resource for inspiration and advice; after all with 12 IM finishes under your belt you must have seen, heard or done everything.  You would be great for a more experienced and accomplished mentee where the drive, motivation and commitment is already there, together with the ability and the speed.  You are not really suited to a newbie with slow times etc as you cannot relate to that. 

And from a getting-out-the-door-and-training perspective, we were too similar and the lure of a cornish pasty always overcame the bike ride.  From that angle...yes, you were a $hit mentor

The Silent Assassin    pirate
07/11/2012 at 11:20

I hope there is nothing in this but the council want to postpone next years event

cougie    pirate
07/11/2012 at 11:28

NIMBYS eh  ?

How many people enter this event ?  It starts at stupid o clock so unless you're local you'll be staying over.  So a lot of rooms booked and a lot of meals being eaten. Even more if there are foreign athletes doing it - they'll be there for at least 4 days I'd have thought ?

Plus some pub will make a fortune out of the Pirate Party on Monday.

Rafiki    pirate
07/11/2012 at 11:31

I hope you're right!

Its a very amusing article considering for 4 years I commuted through Henley town centre every day - and I've never known a place that closes the High Street quite so often - Regatta, Rewind Festival, Arts festival, Bonfire night, Christmas shopping, Half marathon, any excuse.... must of been 1 or 2 days a month!

Edited: 07/11/2012 at 11:32
Bouncing Barlist    pirate
07/11/2012 at 11:37

Its partly Nimbyism but reading the article and the concerns from some who've been behind the event before.  The criticsm is that Just Racing arent presenting a clear financial justification and theyhave a right to challenge it.  If you look at the impact on just one local business (the golf club having to cancel a 120 person event) which also has potential hotel and local business benefit? then there are potentially questions to answer.  Hopefully Just Racing can come up with a route/financial justification to allay the concerns.

For a race to succeed they need a water tight case and to get the locals 100% on board, they need to see tangible benefits so they get behind the race and support it.  Lets just say im not expecting there to be the same local support on the course that you get at Wales or on the continent.

cougie    pirate
07/11/2012 at 11:41

The truth will be in the middle somewhere. 

JR will have erred on the high side for the benefit to the area. 

The councillors on the low.  OK a few people may make their own sandwiches - but i'd have thought the majority will be buying food there for example. 

And as to the golf course - OK they've lost that business, but someone else will be hosting a prize giving for a lot more than 120 people ?

07/11/2012 at 12:47

Now, ive only read the first 8 pages or so, but the gist of it that their is a PSOF championship help ( this comming year ) at the Challenge Henley event ?

Entry is open and not (as) cheap as outlaw ( which isnt open )

However, as Im in the outlaw half and dont/wont wait forever for an Outlaw full place - budget will get distributed to household if not dispersed to races - maybe I should get on board and give outlaw full a miss ?

( Pressuming couch - Half - Full - Full is not as sensible as it sounds in my head )

( 2nd June, 7th July, 8th September - thats 8 weeks to recover between full distance but only 5 between half and full - which is not a biggy as the half can be treated as mental prep for the full. ( does one need to prep being mental ? )

07/11/2012 at 13:17

Your post Lard reads like Algebra to me with all the brackets in it...

Bedders..    pirate
07/11/2012 at 13:27

I have just read this Henley article and had to laugh when I saw this:

Lord Camoys, who owns Stonor Park, has called for the event to be cancelled.
He said: “Why should these people be given the right to do all this — they should go in an aerodrome.”

In an aerodrome???? 

Would be a real shame if the event was cancelled.

07/11/2012 at 13:29

SgtLard - up to you mate. But as you've come from nowt I think you're pretty mad to consider doing two - you've no idea how you'll feel after completing the first. I'm sure some nutters on here would disagree though. It's my first and I'm already fairly fit; the thought of doing a second 8 weeks after is not even crossing my mind! Outlaw is closed. CH is not. You've no idea if you'll get an Outlaw place. Suffering from slight OCD I like to know exactly what I'm doing and when - especially when it's as big an undertaking as Iron distance.

Voted no on the Henley Standard cancellation poll - natch

Was thinking of entering the Marlow Half Iron as a) it's in the rough vicinity and b) it's on the EXACT date that Sir Fink recommends doing one! (intermediate plan)

cougie    pirate
07/11/2012 at 13:33

I'm thinking Lord Camoys is slightly out of touch with reality. 

When did anyone last go to an 'aerodrome' ? 

And there's probably not many of them with an ironman distance water feature ?

Mmm cycling and running round in circles - why thats MUCH more appealing than the picturesque courses we normally do. What a genius idea. Count me in for that. 

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