PSOF Championships 2013 - Challenge Henley

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12/01/2013 at 20:11

I'll be Finking (intermediate) but will add more bike and a little less run I think. Will be posting here as I go. Finkettes be ready for Monday 11th February.

Events wise I've booked two sportives and two HIM's (I'm skipping the Olympic as I don't really see me gaining much from that)

Will be up for some recce'ing too if anyone else is - nearer the time and once they've sorted out this bleedin' bike route!

12/01/2013 at 20:26

Oh sweet bejesus. The debate still rages:

http://www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/news.php?id=1216589

http://www.henleystandard.co.uk/news/news.php?id=37890

Though from what I can gather, the town council don't actually have much of a say in the matter. It's the district council that call the shots with road closures.

iron fraggle    pirate
12/01/2013 at 22:01
Flippin 'eck . We' not all like that round here you know.
seren nos    pirate
13/01/2013 at 07:42

With so much oppossition form the villages how many will come out to support the cyclists going past..

At IMW the villages have parties and are out cheering the cyclist on

Maybe because they know the economy needs it.....maybe henley area is just too rich with commuters that the economy doesn't need it

13/01/2013 at 09:22

Yes, I'm not expecting much support along the route. 

13/01/2013 at 09:48

At the moment we've got to be content with not getting pelted with quails egg's (with rosemary, sea salt and pepper dip) along the way!

13/01/2013 at 09:50

@Seren - I wouldn't be so sure. You only ever hear from the vocal minority. There will be many more who are supportive/indifferent.

cougie    pirate
13/01/2013 at 12:09
True - and when they did polls the vast majority of people were for it.
IronCat5    pirate
13/01/2013 at 14:56

Even I cycled in to Henley to support last year. I did take my own sandwiches though...

13/01/2013 at 15:04

iron fraggle    pirate
13/01/2013 at 19:06

^^^ Teddy Bear woman will have your guts for garters Cat

IronCat5    pirate
13/01/2013 at 19:53

She will!

Actually, we all ate at Wetherspoons and had numerous coffees from Starbucks. So atleast some of that spend went in to the local economy!

13/01/2013 at 20:01
But Starbucks wouldn't have paid all due UK tax so don't be so smug about your virtuosity there, Cat.
13/01/2013 at 21:40

But did you buy a teddy bear?

M.r Zuvai    pirate
14/01/2013 at 17:23
seren nos wrote (see)

With so much oppossition form the villages how many will come out to support the cyclists going past..

At IMW the villages have parties and are out cheering the cyclist on

Maybe because they know the economy needs it.....maybe henley area is just too rich with commuters that the economy doesn't need it

i dunno, while a vast majority of the Pembrokeshire community were very pleased for us to be there, there was also a signifant amount of vocal opposition (remember a few very angry locals on fb) as well as some dangerous non vocal opposition - tacks on the road!

it seams exactly the same here - most of the communuity seems delighted to have a event like this there - there's just a small number who unfortunately have a mouthpiece to express thier opposition! 

14/01/2013 at 18:32

Just out of interest, do the roads really need to be closed for 12 hours? Assuming the race doesnt start til 7am, you could start to close them at 7.30am, (depending on the route some coiuld close later?) then start to close them as back markers went though? Allowing for a 2.20 swim, and 10 minutes in T1, you could probably open roads round T1 for a few hours inbetween last rider leaving and first riders home? Even the slowest rider will only be out for 8 hours or so (cut off for combined bike and swim is 10 hrs 30 mins) and half the course would presumably be clear long before that?

I've not studied the route but presumably after certain times some roads could be open after the last rider is through?

I realise that where there are feed stations being set up you would need to take extra precautions etc. and cordon off a safe area around them whilst they are being set up etc.

You would also need to police the roads more carefully, ensuring that they opened and closed at the right time (and had flexibility if riders should be particularly fast or slow) but you could turn this back on the villagers and say that they needed to police their own village in accordance with the times specified, or it would be closed solidly? That should see just how in favour they are of the race "in principle"!

Just showing willing!

Having said all that, whilst clearly I would prefer closed roads, did anyone doing the Outlaw really feel they were hindered by traffic? We knew when we were on a busy road and were sensible.

Rafiki    pirate
14/01/2013 at 18:36

Gladys - its basically one road that's an out and back, which you do 3 times, so it would be difficult to open as you suggest. Its also a fairly narrow B road - its bad enough riding it on a normal day with the odd cyclist and cars. I think it would be a little too dangerous on race day. Noce thought though.

meface    pirate
14/01/2013 at 23:07
Schmunkee - The List Fairy wrote (see)
But Starbucks wouldn't have paid all due UK tax so don't be so smug about your virtuosity there, Cat.

Starbuck's will have paid all due UK tax. They don't design the rules they jsut have to obey them. They also have a legal duty to share holders to maximise profit. So if the UK don't require tax due to shoddy rules then they are legally bound to pay the minimum required.

How would you feel if you owned shares in a corporation and they said sorry no dividends this year as paid tax we didn't have to. I would be livid.

So blame the HMRC and MPs for a shoddy job. We need better taxation laws not whinging by MPs that the big boys were mean to them. Note they brought Starbucks into parliment. If what they were doing was at all wrong they would have been in court.

Note I still buy Costa Coffee as they are UK owned (Whitbread) and would prefer my cash and their corporation tax remained in the UK. I shop Tesco and Sainsbury rather than Walmart (ASDA) for the same reason. Celebrate great British companies don't slam them.

M..eface

purpletrilady    pirate
18/01/2013 at 00:13

have they resolved the road issue yet?

Rafiki    pirate
18/01/2013 at 08:23

Nope, not according tho their website. Might be doing the whole 112 miiles on rollers in T1!!

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