The Longest Day

Training etc ....

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30/09/2003 at 12:39
What commitment (hours/mileage) do you have to put in for an IM?
30/09/2003 at 12:40
sorry forgot to mention, not to win but to achieve a very respectable time!
30/09/2003 at 15:32
I would say 10+ hours.
From memory a good week would be
2 hours swim, bike 6-7 hours ,run4 hours.

Training time is one of those topics that leads to a heated debate. Long hours v Few hours.
What do the others have to say?
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
30/09/2003 at 15:46
13 hours a week is reckoned to be around the minimum you need to put in to achieve a reasonable time. How it is divided depends on each person's strengths and weaknesses. I need more swim time.
30/09/2003 at 16:22
hmmm and is it a given that you are all better at one thing over another or do you do your best to train to the max in all 3 disciplines.

Hope that question wasn't as silly as it sounds to me!
30/09/2003 at 16:53
Reason I ask is that running and cycling i'm good at but swimming..the pits!
WildWill    pirate
30/09/2003 at 17:42
Swiming does not take long to improve at - just get a few one to one lessons

Then focus on the key sessions - long swim, bike, run focusing on aerobic conditioning

(well thats my plan)
30/09/2003 at 17:57
WildWills plan sounds like a good one.

Personally I hate cycling and have to push myself to do any.
It is a negative feedback thing...
I dislike it because I am no good so therefore I do less time because I don't enjoy it and so on.
Spend more time on the discipline your weakest in is good advice I don't follow.
30/09/2003 at 18:24
Big target next year will be the 'Comrades' in SA, but intend to do the smaller Tri's and adventure races to beat the boredom of long distance training. Tend to go for overall fitness first, then do the specific bits later. Pro's call this 'Cross-Training', but I'm no pro. Will keep an eye out for the TLD post Comrades.
30/09/2003 at 23:04
I did TLD this year and thought the atmosphere and organisation was brilliant. Very low key but spot on. Have done HIMUK in the first year up in Llanberis and enjoyed it because it was an "official" Ironman race. But having got the T shirt there is no way I would rush back to do it again over half distance too expensive. If IMUK goes up to full in 2004 then I would strongly consider doing it as a one off - but it would be a tough choice over TLD - because TLD is a class event.
Bionic Ironwolf    pirate
01/10/2003 at 06:44
What works for me is doing normal tri training plus 3 key workouts per week,1 in each discipline, and throwing in some 'brick' workouts when you follow the long bike ride with a short sharp run. And don't forget strength training - I do two weight workouts per week with low weights and high reps.

Wolfy - I'm a terrible swimmer, if I can do it so can you.
01/10/2003 at 09:51
Thanks everyone.

one more question and you mustn't laugh!

Are the any Tri's (that serious peeps would do) that allow one to swim in a pool?
01/10/2003 at 10:02
Yes, Wolfy, there are several tris with pool swims but they tend to be the shorter sprint tris. I did a middle distance one in Denmark that was a pool swim though. Personally I prefer open water as I can't get a good rhythm going in the pool, so to speak.
01/10/2003 at 10:24
Thanks RM! I do have a real phobia about open water but I suppose that is part of the challenge!

I am quite interested in getting involved in one of these!
01/10/2003 at 11:30
My first two open water swims were hell, Wolfy, but as your swimming improves, your confidence gets higher and you start to actually enjoy them. From being the discipline I dreaded earlier in the year, its probably the one I most enjoy now, although it is still relatively my weakest of the three.
WildWill    pirate
11/10/2003 at 12:07
Ay-up

I've just started my base training (Base 1)

During base 1, I am concentrating on keeping in zones 1 & 2 and on getting my key sessions in each week – they are:

Long Swim, Long Run, Long Bike and weights

My long swim I am doing as a continuous effort (front crawl) starting at 2500m and adding 200-250m each week
My long runs, in base 1, are been done as 5min run/1min walk an will be 2-3hrs long
Long Bike, I have more of a problem with – in as much as it is too hilly round here to keep my HR down – but I’m starting at 3hrs and building up
Weights I aim to try and do twice per week (full body) to build some strength

Each week I’ll do extra sessions on top of the key, but aim not to miss the key

On top of all that I have a TI swimming workshop coming up at the end of this month and a 2 day hike (8-10hrs per day) in the lakes

So I’m pleased with my start

WW
Bouncing Barlist    pirate
11/10/2003 at 12:14
Hi, Im Carl.

Just started my own thread lol and then noticed yours, ive not read all the posts yet but seems we are at a similar level though my experience is with Running and im very new to swimming.

Hope to see you at the start line 18/7/04, maybe meet up for some training before hand if you or anyone fancies it.

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
11/10/2003 at 12:28
Being completely new to this your (WildWill) training program for Base 1 seems a lot higher duration than mine. Im aiming to train about 5-6 hours per week till the end of the year and not planning to start the long stamina straining till around March as im fearful of over doing it and getting injured.

Not sure what I should be aiming for but have set milestones to achieve 2000 meter continous swim & 1/2 Marathon by christmas. Sub 3:30:00 Marathon, sub 2:40:00 Olympic Tri & 75 mike cylce by April. After that ill be doing my serious endurance work, bricks, and prep 1/2 ironman in the last 13 weeks.

I'd like to email my plan to someone to look over if anyone is willing to have a look and give me some pointers.

PS. That makes the list:

WildWill
Big Bopper
Dazzy Boy
Matt the Brum
Carl Barthorpe

11/10/2003 at 12:31
carl see my post on your thread, you should do more hours training

...but of course you'll need to build up to it gradually
11/10/2003 at 12:32
email me your plan if you like (not doing TLD doing Ironman Austria they clash... labels darling, labels)
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