Training for a shorter Tri

For those not yet up to IM

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05/02/2011 at 07:59

2.5km sounds a long swim to me - I could probably manage it if I didn't die of boredom first, but my arms would ache.

I'm most comfortable breathing every other stroke, but I do try to fit in a few lengths each week where I breathe, firstly, on the opposite side to I'm most comfortable with, every three strokes, and every four stokes.

My breathing motion is not smooth to my 'other' side, and I end up gasping on a longer interval. It's worth trying though, as it can also help with stroke symmetry.

05/02/2011 at 08:31
IThanks Yersinia - 'll give it a whirl - the weather looks so awful this weekend I may well go for another swim tomorrow rather than risk a wet and slippy bike ride. Practising specifically on my weak side is a great idea! Wish me luck! I need to be shouted at when I revert to my breast stroke default setting!
05/02/2011 at 08:39
England England were poor but will take the win

Ok sorry not a Rugby forum so will move on.

Hi Razor I'm all set for my LSR this morning, it's very windy here so just deciding which run to take 10,12 or 15. Will decide I think after first couple of miles see how I'm coping with the wind. Nice steady week for you though Razor well done keep up the good work

Yersinia, the hardest part is the getting up and getting there on days like this so well done and enjoy being blown about let us know how you get on.

Gingergav I can remember going Blackpool on a couple of stag do,s and it was the same for me. Would take 30 minutes walking up the sea front and an hour walking back lol

JEvaNs, get up and do your park run o this might be to late now you have probably gone lol ok well done on getting up for your park run

Right time to get some scramble egg on toast before my run at 10am, will be on later to hear about the park runs.
05/02/2011 at 10:16
1 hour swim done.. yay! legs feeling much fresher now
05/02/2011 at 10:32

Ankle held up fine.

V. v. windy ride there, and boy am I slow!

But it's only the second time I've actually run 5K since starting running again four weeks ago, so it's a true baseline that I can hope to build on

05/02/2011 at 12:21

Well done Bootsie! I'm still stiff after last nights swim.

Nice one on your 5k Yersinia - getting out there is the key! Gotta be the right thing to do! Enjoy the rest you've earned now! I wouldn't mind a pop at one of these but none are near enough to me to make it easy. Oh well, back to the prom!

05/02/2011 at 12:46
Well I did it 10 mile run hilly and very very windy (wind seemed stronger going up hill ) tried a new training technique did 9 minutes running then 1 minute walk. It was something people were talking about on another forum so I tried it. Worked well felt strange for the first walk after only 9 minutes running but over all felt better on the later miles. My time was 1 hr 36 for 10 miles which is good for me cause I'm a 10 minute mile runner

Well done Bootsie on your swim I'm looking forward to my splashing about tomorrow

Nice one Yersina on your park run are they every week on monthly?

Hope you had good run on the Prom Gav.

Were are you Chilli what you unto this weekend?

JeVans how you get on?

Razor what you unto?

Steady you been put?
Edited: 05/02/2011 at 12:48
05/02/2011 at 12:49
Sorry SteadyCj that's have you been out lol
05/02/2011 at 13:35

They're weekly, Silver, but I won't go every week.

I'm at my mum's next weekend. There's a parkrun within cycling distance of her house, so I'm vaguely contemplating that, but I'll see how I feel.

05/02/2011 at 14:59
Sounds good for training though how many raced? what sort of times were people doing?
05/02/2011 at 15:14

I didn't have a watch, so I don't know my time, but I'm pretty sure I won my wooden spoon fair and square.

The results aren't out for this week, while it seems that a lot of the parkruns are already online. Last week, there were 44 runners, the maillot jaune was about 18 minutes, and the lanterne rouge was between 34 and 35 minutes.

Razor51    pirate
05/02/2011 at 16:20

ST ............................Well done on your run mate, a decent time for run/walk. I bet it felt good to be out and about again

Yersinia.....................Well done for getting out the there in the wind. Thought about doing my Parkrun this morning but didn't have enough time to get there (bad planning).

Got abit of a head cold at the moment so I'm a bit stuffed up , Was going to do my LSR today but will have to postpone untill my head clears, if I feel better I will get the bike out tomorrow. I will content myself with stretching and core work later.

Have a good weekend Gang

05/02/2011 at 18:55
Just a quickie before heading off to do a Jamie Oliver...!

Parkrun done! I did think twice, but both times I thought " yeah - do it!" So 7.5 mile cycle in the wind, 5k run, 7.5 mile cycle in the wind.
First leg: 36 minutes
Seconde leg: 26:30 (officially 26:41, but that included a bit before the start line...)
Third leg: 45 minutes.
Transition times were probably around 10 minutes....!!!

I got a lovely little email from the Parkrun gang this afternoon congratulating me on my first race and that 26:41 is my registered PB with them. I was fairly far back in the field, but 4th for my category! Clearly not many women my age running....! Got in a bit of a tizz with my bike and storing my stuff, but it was fine.

Will definitely do it again, but not sure when. Maybe once a month to keep tabs on the times over those distances, but also to get me to 'race' in training off the bike. It's a slightly different intensity to my usual training....

Anyway - can't stop, as much as I would love to. Mustard chicken awaits!!!
05/02/2011 at 19:22

Well done!

Our times aren't out yet, but mine will be terrible. I didn't time the cycle ride. We've popped a bottle of Champers to celebrate completion of my first parkrun, and I'm cooking ham in cider.

I'm also thinking of doing it maybe once in each of my four-week training periods, but there may be shuffling to fit around other weekend activities..

05/02/2011 at 21:21
Hey just been on park run web site and there's one near me so just registered
Razor51    pirate
05/02/2011 at 22:09
Me too ....registered last night so will be there all being well next week.
05/02/2011 at 22:29

Hi Guys!

ParkRun is great ST. I would really recommend it. My big girl and I went this morning. A bit windy and I had to hold on to her in places! Our time was 30:29 and I think our PB is 29.49. Don't know what mine is alone, cos it's the special thing that we do together. Was great to get out there though. I think my brief cold has gone! Was very surprised at how ill I felt though. 

So we did that this morning and then my hubby was busy this afternoon so I took my girlies to my uncles' house, an hour drive away. He's rich with a lovely indoor swimming pool. We had a great time. My big girl is really working very hard to improve. Have found an aquathon at the end of April for her. Her backstroke is really pretty good - can you do backstroke in a pool based tri?

Gingergav - I was a onesided breather. Every four strokes. But last autumn I decided I needed to be able to breathe both sides. And so i began doing that for all my front crawl lengths. Now it comes very naturally every three strokes which actually suits me better.

Razor - pretty good week!

Okay - I have one of my very stupid questions. I took my tri-suit and wetsuit with me today  to experiment. Although I am a size 10 I am 5ft8, so slightly on the tall side. All the info I read said to buy the tri-suits based on bust/waist/hip size not on height so i bought a size 10 on e-bay at a brilliant price. But although it fits perfectly around me, the length is slightly too short making the crotch too tight Had planned to wear this under my wetsuit and then throw a t-shirt over the top for the bike and run. But I think it might be too tight to run comfortably.

I have some tri shorts that are more comfortable. Can I get away with wearing shorts and a crop-top style bra under the wetsuit and then add t-shirt?

The other problem is my wetsuit - it is a fairly nice one but belongs to my mother who is larger than me and too much water goes down the neck with each stroke. So I guess I need to buy a wetsuit that fits. This tri business is expensive! Am wondering the best way to break the news to my hubby...


05/02/2011 at 23:31

I wore shorts and a shock absorber vest with a proper high impact built-in sports bra under my wetsuit for London, didn't add a tee, and it was fine, except the top was a little low-cut for my preference.

If I could find a slightly more modest cut of top, that's what I'd do again - I'm pretty well-endowed and do need a proper sports bra for the run section.

06/02/2011 at 12:23
I'd afraid I can't comment on the trisuit/wetsuit issues as I am yet to get involved in that area of equipment. I did come across somewhere online that rents wetsuits out for a season for what seemed like a very reasonable price, and at the end of the season you can buy them apparently. I think that is what I will do. In my reading on the subject though, I think there is supposed to be a layer of water around you in the wetsuit - though I suppose if there is more that just a layer maybe it isn't so good.

I was planning on getting a tri suit for a pool based tri, but I think all the ones I am going to do (or I have planned to do) at the moment are outside (trying to ignore this since I said I would NEVER swim in open water...) so I will have to go for a wetsuit... though actually I will need a tri suit underneath, won't I? Yersinia - did you have tri shorts on under your wetsuit too? Or just regular shorts?

On the breathing side of things for swimming.... I managed to teach myself bilateral breathing and breath every three strokes now. Though sometimes I do 2-3. Or 2-2-3. Or maybe 3-4 to try and slow things down. The fewer breaths I take the smoother I am. When I breath on my left (I think) I lift my head out, or twist too far or something. When I had lessons last year I was taught to just move my head to breath rather than twist my body to get my head out of the water. I try to do it so that I can see half in and half out of the water. It's odd to see, but it helps me keep my head down.

I'm trying hard not to get too wedded to a particular breathing routine because in open water it may be up to the choppiness of the water as to how often I get to breath and on which side!!!!

Also - learn to cough under water if you can't already. I've found that a useful skill regardless of tri training!
06/02/2011 at 12:50
Sorry Ladies I can't comment on boobie things lol

Which park runs are people signed up for? Mines Brunstone Leicester.

Swimming I've just started but have gone for learning to breath out of both sides from the start although more comfortable from the left.

Looking forward to swimming tonight also have day of tomorrow so kid free in morning so a nice brick session for me 20k bike 5k run
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