Training for a shorter Tri

For those not yet up to IM

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26/01/2011 at 19:23
Ha ha Chili - "not too far cos I haven't learnt how to change a tyre"

I forgot about how difficult it is to eat while running, but yes, eating with mouth open sounds familiar!
26/01/2011 at 20:04
Hi Clairey, unless your going for elite I wouldn't bother to much about speed for now. Start building your base like JEvaNs said by time instead of distance and do some brick sessions. Which means when you get back from bike ride go for a run straight away, again start small 10 minutes you will be surprised how strange and hard it is

Chilibean, only 3 jelly babies lol I normally take 12/16 with me just be careful on hot days cause you'll end up with one big one lol
Edited: 26/01/2011 at 20:22
26/01/2011 at 20:06
A jelly toddler!
26/01/2011 at 20:16
Thanks guys - was hoping you'd say that, slow running distances is bad enough at the moment without trying to go fast too!

Chilibean - I've been running on/off for a few years but only in the last few months started on a really regular basis. I can now do the 3-4 miles fairly comfortably (aka trundling along with my dog, looking at the scenery!) so I reckon I'll just follow Jevans trick of doing another 5-10 mins and building it up that way.
26/01/2011 at 20:21
I remember my first 60 minute run. My husband came out with me and all I wanted to do was to keep going for an hour... all he wanted to do was to beat me. He sped off with over a mile to go and I breezed past him at my gentle pace as he staggered back to the car!
26/01/2011 at 22:01

I'm similar, Clairey - fine on the bike, but a carp runner. I ran a couple of years ago but lapsed, and am just getting back to it, and have managed a slow and steady 5K for the first time earlier this week.

I'm wanting to consolidate at that distance before building up a reserve of being able to run further when not in combination. After that I may up the intensity slightly, but don't want to overdo it. I don't think I'll be ready for real bricks for a few weeks, although I always cycle to the pool and back, and will probably do quite a lot of runs in parks that are a bit of a distance, so I have to cycle to them too. So I suppose those sessions are semi-bricks.

Oddly, I didn't get the jellylegs in my only triathlon - maybe I wasn't giving it enough welly, or maybe it's just because the cycling is relatively comfortable for me.

Razor51    pirate
26/01/2011 at 23:09

H Gang.............Went for a 3.5mile run tonight and felt absolutley knackered, felt slow and leg weary .

Breaking in my new trainers which are structured for my pronation so that could be the reason I fell leg weary, will be ok when i get used to them.

Jelly beans are easier to eat on the go because there not as big as jelly babies  and I prefer them ( cos you can stick a load in your gob at once) lol

Did my first brick a couple of weeks ago, when I got off the bike I made to go one way and my legs decided to go another, finished up on my arse, luckily no one saw me because I was in my garage.The neighbours think I'm mad any way running, biking and swimming if they saw me fall over it would confirm their suspicions lol.

Welcome aboard Clairey.

27/01/2011 at 07:38

The bike-run thing is a funny one I find. In my first sprint Tri I felt ok, but really heavy legged and like I was going really slowly - which was fine. Then they reckoned my run time was sub-25 for 5k so I decided their course was short because there was no way I was going that fast - I wasn't up to that kind of time for a 5k generally, let alone as part of a Tri.

Next time I did the same course (last August), a similar thing happened. And in training when I have done some (short) bike-run sessions, I've found my legs wanting to go faster than I expected them to. It still feels weird, but it seems to work out nicely for me at least!

I wonder if it's the momentum?

27/01/2011 at 09:11

I'm the same.. i really feel rubbish on the bike-run transition but my run time is always much better than it feels.. wierd isn't it!

27/01/2011 at 09:16

I have 16 weeks to my Sprint tri from Sunday.

I think I'm going to try to make myself a training plan today. Nothing too ambitious or inflexible, or I'll never keep to it! But maybe incorporating ideas of focus weeks and drop-back weeks.

16 weeks would split rather nicely into four four-week cycles, eh?

27/01/2011 at 10:39
sounds like a plan.. i think 15 weeks for me eek! i need to get off my arse when i feel better!!! run is taken care off.. just need the swim/bike to improve!
27/01/2011 at 12:23

So. Next week. Week 1, I think I'll make it a swim focus week. It's also Winterswim 800m week, which is just a tad above my race distance of 750m.

So I'm aiming for 3 swims, with 800m time trials and then some drills on two of them, with the third being a more leisurely affair. Plus two 5K-ish runs, circuit training and one decent bike ride. There will be a bit of incidental riding to the pool and circuit class, too.

Eek. Sounds like quite a lot, typed out like that.

27/01/2011 at 12:41
make one of your 5km runs a cycle off the bike.. that will help
27/01/2011 at 13:05
When I get off the bike I don't get jelly legs I get te opposite I get legs of steel lol they feel like running with tree trunks for legs and me to my times are faster running after biking even though seems slower very strange
27/01/2011 at 13:18
bootsie wrote (see)
make one of your 5km runs a cycle off the bike.. that will help

I don't understand what this means.

27/01/2011 at 13:29
whoops that means a run off the bike
27/01/2011 at 13:59

Heh.

I'm not sure I'm up to that yet - Monday was the first day I've managed 5k in isolation since getting back into running this year after some time out. I think that in this first phase I just want to be conservative, and get so that 5k is comfortable and normal for me. Hopefully in phase 2-4, I can improve on that base.

The distances for the swim and cycle legs are well within what I can manage, so in those I can push it a bit more.

27/01/2011 at 15:10
even if its 1km give it a go and see how you get on.. very goo dfor you !
27/01/2011 at 16:16
Bootsie is right just jog round the block it will help you get your running strengh up quicker with not much effort
27/01/2011 at 16:22
Just something I saw on the IM thread, that I thought was valid for us too...people questioning your sanity/reasons for seemingly enormous of training...

Working in a gym, I talk to most sizes and shapes of people, and they often ask what I am doing, so I explain the various distances and sports involved in the races and the training..they then proceed to tell me how easy it sounds, and why am I bothering to train so hard!! I have to use every ounce of restraint to bite my tongue and explain that, although the distances may not seem that far (they are far enough!) when you do them back to back, and at racing (ish) pace, it is actually quite a tough thing to do!!

Rant over

Anybody else have this?!
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