TriStar Monaco Relay Request

10 km runner requested for triathlon relay team

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14/08/2012 at 23:51

Would anyone here be interested in doing the 10 km run section of a relay Triathlon in Monaco (specifically, the TriStar Monaco 111.1 on September 2nd)? I am part of a triathlon relay team whose runner has dropped out due to unforeseen difficulties. We are looking to finish the race rather than break any particular records, so both slow and fast runners would be acceptable.

 

Thank you in advance. 

ChallengeGoGoGas    pirate
15/08/2012 at 11:36
Funny I had a similar thought KK, but I did the last injured runner team relay stand in, so it must be your turn!
15/08/2012 at 11:38

Was just thinking I hadn't anything on that weekend

15/08/2012 at 12:31

I will run just a little bit faster than KK if you pay for my flight and accommodation

15/08/2012 at 12:32

If it had been last year, we were there on holiday and watched the race

15/08/2012 at 12:48

Gastank, I can see the logic in that thinking

 

sarah the bookworm, thank you for the offer. I'm not terribly worried about finishing time as long as they're not going to be ridiculously slow, fall to bits before the 10K is done or be slow in responding (the deadlines for getting this sorted are a bit tight). If the negotiations with kittenkat fall through, I'll ask you (she gets first refusal because she offered first).

 

Dave The Ex-Spartan, that's great! How did you find it? Any information would be useful, given that this will only be my 2nd triathlon relay  

15/08/2012 at 12:49
Just need to check if I can get the private jet to get me there, then I'll stay on my yacht that's in Monaco harbour I'll get back to you ASAP.
15/08/2012 at 12:57
I said we watched it
15/08/2012 at 17:03
So you going KK?
16/08/2012 at 00:36

...or if my team doesn't collapse on me - which it just has I can't do a triathlon relay without a cyclist. The cyclist who just dropped out pointed out, in retrospect correctly, that getting a medical done with this notice is unlikely to be practical for said cyclist. So the entire trip has been aborted. Sorry

16/08/2012 at 08:35
Easy enough to get a medical certificate. Looks more like you are just after excuses
16/08/2012 at 09:09

and if you're members of BTF you don't need a med cert to race triathlon in France - you're covered under ITU member federation rules

or just forge a med cert if not a BTF member - many do that each year to race in France - it never gets checked.  as long as it's official looking you're good to go.

16/08/2012 at 09:18
And no doctors I know would ever give you a med cert to say you won't die doing exercise

(wonder what Suzie is going to do for the Paris marathon next year ?)
16/08/2012 at 11:44

fat buddha, I'm not a member of BTF, neither was my cyclist, and neither of us knew that could get us out of the medical certificate requirement...

16/08/2012 at 11:48

Dave The Ex-Spartan, the requirement doesn't say the certificate has to say the recipient won't die, only that the medical authority believes the recipient is capable of the activity specified at the top of the .

 

I would have had a medical in time, but you can't have a relay with one member (and if the member in question can't cycle or run in the requested timeframe and knows it, entering as a soloist would be pointless).

16/08/2012 at 11:53

PC - perhaps BTF membership is something to consider for the future then if you plan to race tris overseas.  many of us have done continental IM races and not needed to go through the faff of med certs to race them.   but that only goes for triathlon - if you want to do a stand alone run race in France, then you need a med cert as the BTF membership doesn't cover thesens.

16/08/2012 at 12:00
I know what the medical certificate has to say. And I don't know a doctor who would sign such a certificate
16/08/2012 at 12:17
It's supposed to say you are fit to undertaken the proposed activity. How on earth any doctor can test or examine you and give an assurance that you are fit I don't know
16/08/2012 at 19:24

The implied assumption, as with any medical certificates that doesn't specify otherwise, is that the doctor will be accurate to the best of his or her knowledge, at least to the extent that a court would not find the doctor to have been acting against their knowledge or reasonable belief.

 

Adding all that to the end of the form would make it twice as long and would probably be a crime against common sense and grammar, so the organisers of such events tend to assume that the doctors know they mean "to the best of their knowledge and such that a court would not think such a statement false or recklessly negligent" rather than spell all that out.

 

As to how the doctor makes that assessment, they look at your history, your family history (if known and relevant) and call you in for some basic tests of things like resting heart rate and blood pressure. Some organisations and sports require other information such as an EKG scan or stress test (international-level motorsport's an example; don't know if anywhere in triathlon demands this), and in that case the doctor specifies a longer appointment to ensure such testing is done. It also requires more equipment than the standard tests, so are not always possible to do in the GP's office. There may have to be recourse to a shared facility between several GPs or an appointment at a suitable nearby centre.

 

Some conditions, along with adverse results on any test the doctor deems appropriate for your circumstances, will either cause the doctor to refuse the certificate or specify conditions. If the latter happens, any certificate is valid only if you follow doctor's orders (said orders are very unlikely to be put on the certificate itself but may be recorded separately for your own reference). Technically, it is possible to get a "second opinion" if your own doctor refuses to certify you and the organisers don't insist your own doctor must provide the certificate.

16/08/2012 at 19:40
I have an international Motorsport licence and am more than happy to jump through all the hoops that requires, the guidelines and tests are very specific and detailed

The certificate for running or tri in France aren't an that's where all the doctors I know have an issue

Just forge it like everyone else
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