What is the obsession with Ironman?

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19/08/2013 at 12:40

Absolutely, each to their own!  I don't think I brag about doing an Ironman, though I do enjoy talking about it, and I've found that lots of people are interested.  It was a personal challenge and something far beyond anything I thought I'd ever be able to do.  It makes me feel good.    

19/08/2013 at 12:40
Doner Kebab wrote (see)
IronScribe wrote (see)

Flob, sorry, that's crap.  The fact that it's a 'brand' means little.  The fact that it's just about the hardest single day endurance event in the world that any 'normal' people have a chance to work at, train for for a year or more, 6 days per week with two sessions some days, seeing themselves lose weight and get fit, feeling better about themselves, developing a 'can-do' attitude, and then finally crossing the finish line and achieving something they'd have never believed possible (anything is possible!)... fulfilling a dream ... that's why people do Ironman.  They compete with themselves, and winning is the best feeling ever.

Ironscribe, sorry, thats crap. theres plenty of other single day endurance events that are harder than ironman. and hey, look how easy it is to just put someones opinion down

 

Cheers kebab, I appreciate you may not agree with me either but you at least took my opinion as just that. 

 

Symes wrote (see)

Certainly help getting in to events on flob's basis. Work on the assumption that a world record holder might turn up and you'll need to complete the VLM in 3hr 5min or not bother turning up, the GNR in 1h 30min and a flat-ish 10k would have you needing to finish sub 40min, top idea, right up to the point you realise it's fucking stupid 

 

A differing opinion is fucking stupid? Well done on that decision fella. Luckily I 'm not as easily offended or insecure as you.

19/08/2013 at 12:45
Flob wrote (see)

Lol- I stated my opinion. Like it or lump it folks.

ironman branding is about bragging rights, as is the London marathon. we sll have gps devices and can map and time our own 70.3 tri if we like, but that wouldnt be like saying 'I'M AN IRONMAN'. 

I'm obviously not implying that either event is easy in anyway, whether done fast or slow they must take it out if you. But for the cost of the ironman event and equipment, not to mention all the training involved 'I' personally would not even consider doing it if I could not finish in a top half position. I consider top 50% to be competitive (ish) and in the local ish events that I do that means about 1.5 times the winners time (ish) at worst. I doubt many of us would turn up to s 100m event if we could only run it in 15 seconds....- which is faster than me... I think, but I've not tried it since school. That's my next time trial sorted I guess!!

But then again I'm not an athlete. I'm a recreational runner who aspires to the 40min 10k that someone mentioned in an earlier head melt. I also aspire to a 19 min 5k and a 1'30:00 half marathon, not that a HM is likely because of the training mileage/time and because I'm a lazy fucker who likes his food and his time with the Family.

Oh and to call my opinion bollocks is... Utter.... Irony(man)


My O/H is hoping to do Ironman Bolton next year- yes, it's expensive to enter, but he finds that helps focus his mind better on the training.  As for expensive equipment - have to disagree with you there - he has a Decathlon Special Btwin bike which he was given and yesterday while doing a half iron distance triathlon he overtook loads of people on fancy schmancy expensive bikes.  Nuff said.  

Crash Hamster    pirate
19/08/2013 at 12:46

Nope, you're definitely not an Ironman until you do 140.6

I enjoy reading, watching cricket and rugby, rock gigs, pub meals and running, swimming and cycling. At the moment, triathlon other than IM doesn't really excite me, though that will change if the way my 'running career' has progressed is any guide.

Wouldn't do it if you couldn't finish in the top half, eh, Flob? I remember another forumite saying that about the marathon...

19/08/2013 at 13:11
WildWill wrote (see)

if you do not for also find the shorter distances "utterly horrendously painful " your not pusshing hard enough 

Yep. Agreed. But there is a difference between suffering for a couple of hours and suffering for 14 hours or however long it takes you to do an Ironman.

Some people are obviously built for the long distances, but it seems a lot of people just drag themselves round just because Ironman is the "thing to do".... & that can't be enjoyable... can it??

WildWill    pirate
19/08/2013 at 13:16

I enjoy it   ... thats why i do it   .. otherwise i'd be doing something different  

Edited: 19/08/2013 at 13:16
Hope    pirate
19/08/2013 at 13:18

+1 to that WW.

I enjoy the challenge, the training and race day 

TheEngineer    pirate
19/08/2013 at 13:34

And eating cake and not getting fat.

Rafiki    pirate
19/08/2013 at 13:34

I just like the free t-shirt at the end

WildWill    pirate
19/08/2013 at 13:36
TheEngineer wrote (see)

And eating cake and not getting fat.

... i still seam to get fat

flyaway    pirate
19/08/2013 at 13:45

The percieved "obsession" with IronMan on this forum is, I think, largely because there's a lot more you need to know when training for and completeing (or competing in) an IM than there is to a sprint. You could conceivably race a sprint one weekend, learn a whole heap about what you need to do to perform better, and then go and do another one a week or so later. An IM is a much greater committment in terms of both money and time, so you want to make the most out of the training cycle. Thats not to say you dont learn an awful lot whilst training for your first that you then apply to any subsequent races, but for most folks, one IM a year is the most you can manage, so its a whole year before you have a chance to put those lessons into practice. I dont know anyone in "the real world" who's done an IM that I didnt meet through these forums, so if I'd wanted to do one, who would i have asked? There are all sorts of questions that people ask here that I've never seen in any training guide or book.
In addition, as someone else said, its about the camraderie - it can be a pretty scary thing to do, and doing it with other people you know is much nicer.

No-one on here ever says that IM is better than any other distance.

Bouncing Barlist    pirate
19/08/2013 at 14:05

Ironman is better than 25m egg and spoon race!

19/08/2013 at 14:23
Bouncing Barlist wrote (see)

Ironman is better than 25m egg and spoon race!

Hey, the Egg and Spoon race is very tricky!!

19/08/2013 at 14:46

a lighter mood has descended. Thank fook for that! 

+1 about getting fat. 2 weeks off and 4lbs on is my usual 'recovery break'. But a pb always follows

msybe 6months off and I'd be mo's nearest rival?

Symes    pirate
19/08/2013 at 16:58

Flob - If you read the post properly it is the concept of not turning up unless you can fit in with the 1.5x plan which is stupid.

Insecure, not too sure how you draw that conclusion but nope, inclusive, yes.

19/08/2013 at 17:36

If I'm brutally honest for me it was definitely a bit of a mid life crisis thing, just a case of finding something that looked like an impossible challenge on day one & then proving to myself that I could actually do it.

 

It was cheaper (not much) than buying a sports car & more acceptable/likely (a lot more) than finding a mistress. I doubt I'm alone if you look at the huge numbers of male 30-45 entrants in each IM field...........

 

As for the 1.5x concept, have to agree that's b0ll0x

Running Postie    pirate
19/08/2013 at 17:49

I do all this training because I like wearing black and yellow. Canary yellow really suits me 

19/08/2013 at 18:18

nowt worse than angry mamils. Again I'll say it's my opinion that I would not do an event that I couldn't finish in the top 50% of finishers or in less than 150% of the usual winning time. My opinion and my choice. If that upsets you then maybe you feel like I'm having a dig at you and your times. That's not the case. Just my opinion. And to take offence yo that is bolloks/stupid/etc or however else you respond to a differing opinion in the midlife.

 

Crash Hamster    pirate
19/08/2013 at 19:05

In your latest race, only 125 of the 355 finishers were inside your "150% of the winning time" rule. (about 35%)

In Ironman Austria 1570/2850 were inside the same time constraint. (about 55%)

I doubt that the first person in your race was a full-time pro; if they were, you're looking at sub 45 minutes to be in the 150% rule. That's the top 27/355 or about 7.5%.

These are facts, not my opinion.

If you're bothered about being within 150% of the winner, you'd be far better served by doing a decent IM than running a 10k, especially if anyone good turned up. (that's a conclusion from the above facts)

That's the point Symes was making.

You're DF3, aren't you?

M...eldy    pirate
19/08/2013 at 19:16

but aspires to be DF1.5 ...   

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