Winging It

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meface    pirate
19/06/2012 at 09:02

Yep - but shhh they let you run and some of the events even welcome runners, later starts etc.

And the events are a bargain. I do a 30 mile that as a member costs £3 and non-members £5. The 100 typically costs £60-£80 and includes support for up to 48 hours, all food at checkpoints. It may be possible to recover entire entry in food.

Orca    pirate
19/06/2012 at 10:21

Meface, I'm in a very similar boat for Austria (same day as Outlaw). No open water, not enough biking, unsure where my run is at and an original  goal of sub 12.00.

For me, I've abandoned the sub 12 goal. Realised it just wasn't on when I couldn't stick to IM HR on the bike at a recent double Olympic race. So for me, I have set my HRs and I'm going to stick to them, no matter how slow that means I have to go until I am on the last lap of the marathon when survival will be my primary goal. I think it will result in somewhere between 12 and 13 hours but honestly, just finishing will also do fine and if I don't finish, ah well, more time in the pub afterwards! But I believe that unless I have a major mechanical on the bike or I hit severe gastro issues, then I should finish OK.

Golden Boots    pirate
19/06/2012 at 11:48

same situation here but refuse to let the wibbles get the better of me.

Original goal of sub 11 for Outlaw. Training was going really well until 4 months ago when I sprained my ankle in one of these muddy assault course races. Thought I would be able to limp for a week or so and get back on it but that wasnt the case. I haven't ran on the road since... have ran about 6 times on an anti-gravity treadmill but have only done intervals and no longer than 45 minutes. I am thinking about doing the local parkrun this week just to get an idea of how much pain I am or am not going to put myself through on race day.This also led to me getting ITB issues on the bike, this hasnt hurt for a couple of weeks so it is possible it has cleared up.... but it means I have done little long distance bike training. My general speed has rapidly increased, but I have only biked greater than 60 miles about 3/4 times and everytime was with friends at a much more leisurely pace than 'race' pace. My guess is I may end up blowing up at about 80 miles. Have got a lot quicker in the pool, but have only swam OW 3 times and have done nothing but interval training, so lack the endurance and start to ache after a while... have not done anything near the distance but we will see on the day.

My new aim is to be on the run after 7 hours and 20 minutes, and then just finish. If I can finish in time for a few beers afterwards and am able to do so then I will finish with a massive smile on my face. If I have to pull out after trying to run/walk for 20 minutes... then oh well, my own fault for trying to complete when I should perhaps have pulled out. The one thing I don't like is not knowing how it is going to be... I could potentially still race sub12.... then again if the biking and running dont go well I could be chasing cut offs!! Hence the idea to run on the road on saturday!

either way...

ABSOLUTELY NO WIBBLES!!! Not yet, not next week, not on race day!!!

seren nos    pirate
19/06/2012 at 12:07

Meface...........i'm thinking of doing their 100 miler the year after in 2014 when it comes to wales..if i manage that i will go and tackle the lakeland 100...........i'm having some long term plans going on.............so many races to do .so little time before the body gives up totally

19/06/2012 at 12:37

Just to add to those of us winging it, if it is any consolation I am unable to run more than about 6.5 to 7 km at a time without my knee starting to go on me (by that I mean pain inside the joint and swelling). I have to run walk anything longer. This is why I used to say "I'm never doing an Ironman", then I changed it to "I'll do an Ironman when I can give myself enough time to walk the marathon". After doing the bike for a relay eam last year I reckoned it would be achievable at Outlaw. When I entered I fully expected to be getting off the bike and have a very long walk ahead of me!

Just to add to my pre-existing woes, I managed to come off my mountain bike a little over 3 weeks ago, grazing and badly bruising my right ankle, knee, thigh, forearm, upper arm and shoulder. I can still feel the bruising in my thigh and  aroundthe bones at the knee (coincidently the duff one). More worryingly I did a 10 k trail race about 10 days ago and overdid it, didn't run/walk. 

As a result I've had to cut short my last 2 "long" bike rides short, due to the pain in my knee, by quite some margin and have not managed a training ride of over 110 km. On the plus side the longest ride I've done had nearly double the amount of climbing that I reckon the outlaw bike course has and my fitness levels felt absolutely fine during the longer rides and the race!

Come race day, what will be will be and I'm prepared for a very long, and very painful day!!  Now where are the painkillers!!

Edited: 19/06/2012 at 12:38
pain is temporary    pirate
19/06/2012 at 12:47
SlowEngineer wrote (see)


My cycling was limited to a few 20-40 mile rides before London, then outside of ONE 350 mile week in France at an average of c. 15mph, I completed just 5 rides of between 45 and 60 miles afterwards.  There were a few turbo sessions in there as well, mainly because my bike handling skills were poor at best until I lived on the bike in France.

 you mean your bike handling skills have IMPROVED??!  Worrying
TheEngineer    pirate
19/06/2012 at 13:04
pain is temporary wrote (see)
SlowEngineer wrote (see)


My cycling was limited to a few 20-40 mile rides before London, then outside of ONE 350 mile week in France at an average of c. 15mph, I completed just 5 rides of between 45 and 60 miles afterwards.  There were a few turbo sessions in there as well, mainly because my bike handling skills were poor at best until I lived on the bike in France.

 you mean your bike handling skills have IMPROVED??!  Worrying

You could be the worst cyclist in history and I wouldn't know because I don't have a rearview mirror

Doner Kebab    pirate
19/06/2012 at 13:16

seren - lakeland 100 - now your talking   

 

seren nos    pirate
19/06/2012 at 13:44

DK............its on my long term plan.but got to work up to it..........

Golden Boots    pirate
19/06/2012 at 14:09

My drinking ability on the other hand... well you never lose real talent they say!!! I will be the one at the end of the race turning down recovery drinks in favour of my hip flask and a beer!

19/06/2012 at 14:25

Going back to you initial question, M.eface, the trot at Outlaw is a relative doddle. The laps of the pond are fairly mind-numbing (especially if the sun shines) but the loop out along the river is pleasant. It's all pancake flat and the surface is decent, if gravelly.... so not great if you're reduced to a stoic crawl . Feed stations every 20 minutes or so and loads & loads of great support - especially if you wear your colours. I can't run for toffee, but I enjoyed it lots.

pain is temporary    pirate
19/06/2012 at 15:02
SlowEngineer wrote (see)
pain is temporary wrote (see)
SlowEngineer wrote (see)


My cycling was limited to a few 20-40 mile rides before London, then outside of ONE 350 mile week in France at an average of c. 15mph, I completed just 5 rides of between 45 and 60 miles afterwards.  There were a few turbo sessions in there as well, mainly because my bike handling skills were poor at best until I lived on the bike in France.

 you mean your bike handling skills have IMPROVED??!  Worrying

You could be the worst cyclist in history and I wouldn't know because I don't have a rearview mirror

I had to stay that far back as you were wobbling all over the place!!

pain is temporary    pirate
19/06/2012 at 15:05

But yes...back to the original question the run is lovely and flat mainly along canal paths so not on concrete too.  And excellent for spectator support too

Running Postie    pirate
19/06/2012 at 15:09

except for the grass bit and on lap 3 I struggled to lift my legs high enough!!

meface    pirate
19/06/2012 at 23:02

So to recap.

I am winging it - which seems to put me in the majority! But there could be some sandbaggers in our midst. In which case I will see the sandbaggers at the finsih at 6pm or the others at the finish at 9pm. I will see everyone at the bar at 11pm except for KK who will have gone to bed drunk by 3pm

I've signed Seren up for a 100 in 2014, and a couple of others are now thinking 'Could I do Cornwall 100 in 2013'.

Went on the bike today and feet OK.

Telling myself I am less worried. Must read race pack and think about kit.

M.eface


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