10 peaks brecon beacons 2014

hill race

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06/07/2014 at 13:03

Any one having a go at this ?

advice and any info regards route, food , training greatly welcomed.

11/07/2014 at 13:13

Hi Roy,

I can't comment on route as don't know the beacons, but I did The lakes event last month.

Food/drink on offer on the way around includes clif bars, gels, bananas, water, energy drinks, may have been sandwiches, crisps (can't completely recall on the savoury offering), other sweet stuff. If you like clif bars/gels (various flavours) then its a pretty good offering, if your not so keen its worth having a stash of your own likes. I didn't use the clif bars (usually find them too "chewy" at a hard effort pace), but snaffled a small mars bar from one station. And clif gels from a couple of others (a 'mocha' one which was nice if you like a coffee and chocolate taste and a 'citrus' one which was a refreshing alternative to cereal bars/flapjacks at one stage.

Training, if anything like the lakes event get out on hills that make you walk as well as more runnable terrain. try to match the terrain you train on to the race day stuff as much as possible.

13/07/2014 at 18:03

Drunken,

  thanks for the info, all advice is welcome.

24 miles yesterday over the western route, mist came down mid afternoon, properly ran in a circle for 2 of those miles.

14/07/2014 at 09:03

No problem Roy, sounds a good run out on Saturday.

Nearly forgot, I don't know, but assuming you get one indoor CP on route. The one at lakes10 - at Honister - was well stocked with a hot food, cold offering - pasta, sandwiches, etc.... - as well as more variety of drinks (inc. cans of cola - don't drink when not running, but great during a long run for some reason).

15/07/2014 at 01:47

roy silver - you doing the long course?  I'll be running it again this year.  I remember last year's outing being a very arduous event, but most of it was in wonderful sunny conditions. It got bad after dark - setting off from the Storey Arms at 2230 in appalling conditions to do Corn Du, Pen y Fan, Cribyn, Fan y Big and Waun Rydd finally arriving at the finish about 0300 was one of the edgiest things I've ever done.

Superb event, this year starting at 0500 instead of 0400.

I can probably fill you in with any details.  I recommend doing recces if you can. Although the map is useful there are often no paths, or the paths are hard to find, and you need to be good at nav.

15/07/2014 at 07:34

T Rex,

Great result last year finishing well within the allotted time, what are you aiming for this year ?

What distances are you getting up to in training for this event ?

Yes, long course it is.

3 recces done and dusted in progressive distances, couple more to do.    I am staying away from the eastern area as the last few weekends its been like the M4 motorway over Pen-y-fan !!

 

Edited: 15/07/2014 at 07:36
seren nos    pirate
15/07/2014 at 08:30

wait for a wet day and penyfan will be quieter.

sounds like a great challenge

 

22/07/2014 at 13:38

Seren,

 cant wait for it to rain so western area this weekend am afraid. Will try and stick in 6 hours + of work over the hills see what  sort of pace it comes out at.

Looks like a hot one this w/e

 

27/07/2014 at 13:38

After yesterday need to reassess our times for this race !!, very hot, little wind and not enough to drink made a very demanding day,  just under 20 miles with Pen-y-fan, Cribyn, and Fan-y- big taking the last bits of energy out of you at the end of the day.

Still another day, another training session .

 

29/07/2014 at 14:20

Hi Roy, good run in conditions like that. If its consolation then on the day you have regular aid stations with water and food so you will have more options to refill bottles and can travel with marginally less weight in pack if happy to use provided food. Also, got to think that chances of it being as hot or hotter are low, more likely to be the other way.

31/07/2014 at 00:42

Last year I recced the whole course but not sure I'm going to be able to this.  My plan is actually to do a few extra peaks so I'm going to need to see how they fit in.

Good bits to look at are:

  • choosing the best line from Fan Fawr to Fan Llia
  • finding the path down to the Storey Arms from Fan Frynych - there is only one and it is quite hard to find especially after dark.  Once you're on it it's OK - a great trail.
  • the self clip CP on Fan y Big last year was not on the summit but a little to the south attached to a stone shelter - make sure you can find this if, like last year, it is midnight, raining, and thick cloud with about 3m visibility.
  • the section between Carn Pica and Bwlch y Ddwyallt which is practically pathless and full of peat hags and bogs.  Tricky after dark on the way down, but at least on the way up with a later 0500 start it should be daylight by then.
  • the section between the two roads ending at CP4 is pathless and worth reccing a good line.

The rest is relatively straightforward.

Be sure to do plenty of hillwork - the climb to the top of Fan Gyhirych is absolutely monstrous.

I'll be aiming for 24 hours, and to make no navigational errors. Should do the first, probably not the second!

08/08/2014 at 17:29

It would be good to get some chat going about this one but I suppose it is a bit of a specialist event.

130 entrants in the long course so far.

I'm getting all my maps marked up and plan to do three recces of the more tricky bits during the rest of August.

08/08/2014 at 18:09

I'm doing the west of Sarn Helen at first light Sunday morning, doubt I'll get any other recce's in besides that.

I'm fairly familiar with the area; the only bit I'm struggling to visualise is the drop down to the Neudd reservoir, I'm assuming that's on the way out?

 

10/08/2014 at 00:16

sean Oc 4 - yes, on way out.  The loop is done clockwise.  You follow the same direction as the cliff edge 'Graig Fan Las (south west), initially on the Beacons Way and then where the footpath veers off north west at the point 'pile of stones' on the OS map continue straight on over moorland.  I can't remember if there is a pile of stones or not.  A bit of a path emerges following a stream.  Be sure to keep well to the right of the stream - if you go along near the fence you'll get stuck amongst all sorts of gullies and landslips.  (Don't ask me how I know that .)

I think there's a stile at the bottom and you go round the back of a building before aiming for the res and crossing the dam wall.

10/08/2014 at 19:31

T Rex after about 4/500m  you will find a pile of stones the path is quite clear but fades a bit as you get closer to the roman road.

Last few weeks have been running over the black mountains training for a fell race that was run yesterday 9th August, 23 miles, lots of hills, good weather and felt strong at the end, so well pleased..

Back up BB's this Saturday on the course from Dan-y-Ogof over to Llyn-y-fan and back, that will be it, might run the BB's roundabout in 2 weeks time.

 

10/08/2014 at 20:32

I've down the roundabout a couple of times - Mynydd Troed is certainly good hill training!!

10/08/2014 at 21:02

Cheers, I think that's me sorted with the course except for that trig point between Fan Brycheiniog and Fan Gyhirych.  Visibility was about 5m in todays interesting weather, and so there could have been a well trodden route that I missed.  As it was I had an utter bugger of a climb, traverse and descent picking my own way through the babies heads hoping that lightening wouldn't zap me.

 

 

GKD
10/08/2014 at 21:36

Sounds like you had a fun day Sean, I'm heading up there mid week for a little run about, I can't make the race this year but I thought I might do some of the route anyway with a view to doing next years

GKD
10/08/2014 at 23:19

Well done for sticking it out, sean.  I wouldn't have wanted to be up there in that lot.

 

I understand the North Downs Way 100 had a bad time of it as well!

I'm not aware there is a trig point between those two peaks?  Picws Du doesn't have a trig point (peak 4) if that's what you mean.  You find your own way down the slope to the bwlch and then up the path for about 500m to an ancient cairn on Picws Du (called 'Bannau Sir Gaer' in the race info).

11/08/2014 at 07:53

Sean, ditto what T rex said

 

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