A tribute to aid station personel.

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22/03/2012 at 13:14
entrance?  entrant
22/03/2012 at 13:42

ummm 100k in 4hr 24 is pretty damm quick in my books do you have your figures wrong somewhere??????

22/03/2012 at 13:45
Ahhh just checked the link I do belive you meant 50K which I agree is not quick.... I have been in 50k races where the winning time was close to the 3hr mark....
22/03/2012 at 13:49

err - good spot.  yeah she did 50km in 4:24. 

i'm not only old, fat and slow, i also have some kind of number dyslexia too!

22/03/2012 at 13:50

My experience would be that marathon time is rarely a good indicator of ultra time and vice versa. 

I have finished ultras ahead of people who could knock the better part of an hour off my marathon time. 

I think that ultra runners are better athletes comparing like for like, and represent a higher quality field. 

On the other hand, I do think that there could and should be a lot more people running ultras than there are in thge U.K.   

22/03/2012 at 14:13

no it was 4:24 and 50k, bret pointed out my ultra goldfish tendencies re hyper memorising mega numbers. 

22/03/2012 at 15:02

I definitely agree with the older and slower in my case, but not the fatter !

On the Highland Fling last year I was amazed at how many runners said hello when passing, being in the first wave start that meant one hell of a lot of faster younger guys overtook me - the majority said hello or how are you doing. At every aid station I shouted thank you or hello to the marshalls giving out bags or handling the timings, its only polite .

 I have to agree though that some runners on that race were bloody downright rude! Two of us plodders were completely barged and elbowed out of the way by a couple of relay runners on the narrow Inversnaid stretch, all they had to do was shout Hi, coming through please? .....If I'm there this year I will push the feckers in the Loch !

I arrived at the Bein Glass aid point to be greeted by a very grumpy marshal - I said Hi there, she glowered at me! There was a general air of the marshalls being very very pissed off at this aid station - I checked in and just got my drop bag and carried on. I later found out on the Fling forum that this was where a number of runners had been extremely abusive to the marshalls - one marshall was refusing to be involved in the event again and the Bein glas farm / campsite people were also hacked off with the behaviour of crews and runners.

Like Noanie (I think?) said - if someone offends a marshall to that extent, ie is verbally or physically abusive, you have to take their number down and ban them from the next race, its the only way really.

22/03/2012 at 15:31

Just checked the profile of the aforementioned 50k race its quite hilly so maybe does justify a slower time (course record is 4hr 01)

My take on abusive tonks at CP's is just give them a time penalty say 10mins for each time there rude.

The look on there face at the end would be priceless if they have accumalated a lot of time penalties

Or failing that yeah push em in the canal.....

22/03/2012 at 15:36

The pushing in the canal clause would be more practical at some events than others. 

The GUCR for example, would be eminently suited to testing such a sanction!

22/03/2012 at 17:32

Cragchick - I know the guy who has taken over as the new organiser of the fling this year - we used to work together, although a while ago now. Maybe I should drop him a wee email, or point him in the direction of this thread?  

He was marshalling at the finish line last year so he will no doubt have heard what happened and know about the ongoing Bein Glas / relay crew parking issues. I'm sure he will be at pains to sort things out so people dont compromise the future of the race with rudeness.

One thing I would have done though is cut back the number of relay teams on that race, 47 listed with 4 people in each!!!!!!?????  I'd limit the teams to maybe 20, and make it mainly a solo runner event with say a 500 limit, although maybe even that is too many on that route.

23/03/2012 at 21:23

Why would anybody want to be a relay runner?

Do you think I want to divide my race experience between five people?

24/03/2012 at 18:59

Exactly what I think too.

With the Fling in particular but with a lot of other races too - the point for me is its a journey - in this case from Lowland Scotland across the Highland boundary geological faultline, along Loch Lomond and into the true Highlands. I mean who really would want to just run the flat Milngavie - Drymen stretch and leave it at that?  

AndrewSmith    pirate
26/03/2012 at 22:24

There is an irony here that a thread started to applaud aid station staff would degenerate eventually into a thread with ultra runners talking about themselves!!

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