For all Comrades, south Africa 2013 runners & those wanting to know more
Once again - thanks for all that and Fido2Dogs - just saw your post with all the great info re woman travelling alone. Many thanks for that...great stuff.
I have started loooking at flights.....mad really but I just know that once something like this has even entered my brain, I am going to go all out to do it. My other half said the same at the weekend and he has even offered to 'sub' me the money to get out there and do it - even offered to pack !! Hmm, wonder if he is trying to tell me something.
Apart from on here, it will not be something I will tell anyone about until next April....that will be a right big old challenge in itself !! I was accused yesterday of just 'tripping' out the marathons like it was no bother and should do something else instead such as an Ironman or tri. What a sauce....running marathons is BLOODY hard !! However, I refrained from blurting out my new crazy idea so all good so far.
I am going to keep plodding and racking up marathons - leggies and bits allowing - but will now be using them as training runs.
I am doing Thames Meander in two weeks, New Forest, Abingdon, Beachy Head, possibly A20 Track, maybe Bacchaus and then to round off the year - all being well - Portsmouth Coastal which I have done for the past two years....but hey...all training runs now so have taken on a whole new dimension.
Tsk tsk Possum Hopper, Don Oliver (a guru of Comrades training & author of "Make Sure Of Your Comrades Medal", a book which is a very tidy summary of what you get on www.alsoranrunners.info ) says that you should COMMIT to Comrades (tell people!) and even includes a commitment card to sign with each copy of the book!
That said, shelling out six hundred odd quid for flights seems to be an entirely adequate substitute for UK runners, at least on here. I can't remember hearing about anyone on here dropping out because they changed their minds. Injury or family stuff, sure.
CU at Abingdon. My own running is v. slow at the moment - did (nearly) 13 mi on Sunday and was slower than at Comrades! It will come back I expect...
Hi Fido - I'm about to prove you wrong.... Problem question which I suspect even SD will struggle with. I believe entry for Comrades will again close November 30th (maybe before if full, but not materially). However, the lottery for an event I have already qualified for does not take place until December 8th - the lottery is very tough, and I probably have less than 10% chance of getting a place, but for that reason it has to be number 1 on the list as I'm not getting any younger and it might never come up again.... It seems that international Comrades entries are not transferable ( even though SA ones are ) although as Fido says, most internationals do this way in advance after lots of thought so last minute transfers might not help me anyway. So, if the Comrades B2B is Plan B, I just have to risk walking away from my $180 ??? Plan C would be doing both, but I don't think my budget can deal with SA and California three weeks apart - even if my legs could....
Fido...LOL...oh I will commit...no worries about that, but I would not want to 'jinx' myself in any way by saying anything too early. Having just about got through a time of injuries, I do not want to tempt fate.
I do have family in Cape Town.....what is this I see that you can possibly use an SA address and get some kind of reduced entry ??
Possum- I was checking Kayak pretty much everyday last year. I had previously done the Emirates route and that is a bit of a slog so opted for SAA this year which was a bit more expensive. However, I remember seeing an Iberia price for £595 and bottled it- My research eventually showed that it was on BA55 flight which was £400 or so cheaper than BA. Only lasted a week!
I'm at New Forest with the family so will see you there. Training going well this end with a bit more quality which seems to be working.
Saw on twitter 2 weeks to registration- Chris Mccormack was up for it with Bob Babbit from Competitor Radio. Gutted that I'm not going to be there!
Excellent - thanks Odeon.
Stacks of very useful information on here....thx everyone.
Kevin - if you're talking about WSER100 then I had the same dilemma this year. I entered both (my intention was to go to WSER100 and take the hit on the unused Comrades place if I wasn't fit or rich enough to do both...). I didn't get a place in WSER and your assessment that your chances are less than 10% is spot on, especially as a GB runner - I watched last year's draw live on a Saturday night (very sad!) and my recollection was that non-North Americans drawn in the ballot were less than a dozen... Your best chance might be to get yourself an unsual nationality (perhaps using an address in Turkey) and see if you can get in on the global representation selction process... it worked for one of my friends who used is Zimbabwean connection!
Possum Hopper - Dave and Mel Ross - who organise the Thames Meader are both Comrades runners. In fact they got married a couple of days after running Comrades a few years back - bride, groom and guests went for a run (hobble) in the Drakensburg on the morning of the wedding! It will be worth your while picking their brains for all things Comrades!
Thanks SD - yes I was aware of that and I think, but correct me if I'm wrong, that Dave has his own Comrades number now ?? Or is it known as a green number ?? I have seen him on a few local runs I have done....nice man.
You could ask Gobi Kev - I was under the impression that he had transferred his entry when the leg went pearshaped.
SD - watching the WS100 draw on a Saturday night is the new black
PH - SD will be able to tell you all about green numbers [fx: sits back]
Dave and Mel looked after me and gave me loads of advice for this year's Comrades, Dave's gets his green number in 2014. He will give you laods of help if asked.
Maybe I'll have a chat if able to at TM, altho I might come over all girle as am in awe of people who have done such things.
Fid - yes - will look out for you at Abingdon and my running is also slow at present after starting off pretty well this year and getting a PB 3 times in a row. Have ground to a halt as have just overdone it and got sore bits. Was hoping to beat my Abingdon time done in 2010 but that is unlikely but am still going to do it as hey, they are all training runs now....oh and hotel booked.
PH: re using South African relatives to enter and save a few pounds .. you would miss out on some of the perks that International Runners get when collecting numbers and the really useful International runners tent at the end.
My running is on hold at the moment .. the sore leg I have from Comrades wont go away and saw a physio finally yesterday. No running for 4 to 6 weeks as my hamstring recovers. I can indoor cycle though so its onto the bike for a month. The rest will probably do me some good as I have a few other niggles that should clear up at the same time.
Back in Angola this morning after a month away
Peter - thx for that and on looking at SA relatives further I think it would be too much hassle so will just be a 'normal' International runner.
Hope you get your niggles sorted and I know all about having a bad hammy......pain in the bum - quite literally but you're right in that the rest will probably do some good as you can get the other niggles calmed down.
I am now also sporting a lovely blister on the side of my hell due to running slightly differently...if it's not one thing it's another at the moment.
So, how does Comrades compare with NDW50 for difficulty/likely time of completion? I know it's a bit difficult to compare given road vs trail (as well as Comrades being six miles longer), but anyone done both and could give me an indication?
I ran the NDW 50 in 8.54 (plus 2 miles extra going wrong at the end) ran Comrades in 8.02. It's hard to compare the two as you say trail v road. The NDW I had to walk most of the steep hills where Comrades I run most of the way with short walking breaks. The same with Eco Trail de Paris80k time 8.20. Comrades is more brutal on the feet and legs as your pounding up and down the road. Enjoyed both events if your've done the NDW you can easy do Comrades, it's just about managing the route thats way it's a good idea to go on the route tour they put on. I'll be back year to do my back to back.
Debra / Peter - I agree on the road v trail issue. My Ecotrail time was much slower than Comrades despite being 6 miles shorter. Obviously running a rough trail in the dark with a dodgy torch is a large part of that....
Thanks SD - yes, WSER, and I think that does seem to be the only option. My name doesn't sound very Turkish so I probably won't risk that - the attention from being the first ever Turkish runner might then force a language crash course and a stick on moustache. Sounds like I would emerge as Borat. But no mankini....
Peter, thanks for that; I finished NDW50 in 9.53, having walked all the steep hills (but I was still running where the terrain allowed, right to the end, which I was pleased about). My major target for next year is Lakeland 50 (which I know will take several hours longer), but although in general I prefer trail to road I'll admit I'm getting more and more temped by the idea of entering Comrades as well...
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