Rant about outrageous race prices.

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23/09/2013 at 21:37

We live in a world of contrasts.

Take fell racing. Last time I entered the blencathra fell race, a lady sat in a deckchair, took my £1 (yes you heard it right, 1 pound coin) - I gave a name and we were good to go. A glorious race over some of the northern fells.  Even the big championship races are cheap. Last time I did Borrowdale, great community atmosphere , a real "must do" over some of lakelands highest fells, 18 miles but with 7500 feet of climbing that easily makes it "ultra" in equivalent distance.often a championship race. Cost £5, and there was a celidh for the night time.

But I love LDWA events too - my real passion.. I just entered the "four passes" , complete with manned check points with refreshments ( often hot tea! civilization!) and meal at the end for the princely some of £11.

I then look at the web and the world has gone barking during the period I was out for the last knee up.. Today for example I trotted round most of the course of the trail26 rivington trail. A very ordinary off road marathon, little different from any LDWA event. Yet they want £35!!!! for what???

What amazes me is how these overpriced races fill up. All sorts of non descript races trying to take anywhere between £30 and £60, and triathlons seem to be something else!

Now i can sympathise with such as the 10peaks events, that charge a fair wad , considering MOST of it goes to charity.

But the seeming creeping commercialism is not a change for the better - a lot of these races are just for profit, and there is no justification.

 

 

23/09/2013 at 21:47

Pure market forces.

Surprised the London marathon hasn't cottoned on that it could charge £100 and it would still be over subscribed.

The people happy to shell out such money have invariably been priced out of much more expensive activities. 

cougie    pirate
23/09/2013 at 21:48
I don't see the problem. Aren't the fell races and LDWA events still there ?
So you can do those and the expensive ones are there if you want ?

Commercial races have to make money.
23/09/2013 at 21:48

Didnt we just have this conversation lol .......

 

23/09/2013 at 21:48

If London charged £100 to enter and I would get guaranteed entry and not have to raise any money for charity, I would pay it.

 

cougie    pirate
23/09/2013 at 21:49
Ric - ssshhhh on the London Marathon !!
23/09/2013 at 21:52

too late - I just entered the london marathon and it was three quid more than last year. Shocking.

23/09/2013 at 21:53

Shit! that's torn it.

23/09/2013 at 22:00
It'll be 35 quid soon, what a rip off!
cougie    pirate
23/09/2013 at 22:02
Do you reckon mo paid ??15 for his half race last year ?
23/09/2013 at 22:04
Not sure but hopefully he only got half a bag of rice and half a prune in his goody bag.
23/09/2013 at 22:29

I dumped the rice it was just too heavy 

 

23/09/2013 at 22:32
I wished I had. I dragged it round London all day before I realised what it was. I thought the bag was heavy as in years before there had been a can of beer in there.
23/09/2013 at 22:35

The importance of value for money all depends upon the type of race you are entering.  

When selecting a 100 mile race for example, getting value for money should be pretty close to the bottom of your list of priorities. 

GKD
23/09/2013 at 22:40

I'm not sure you meant that the way it reads Ben but personally I think value for money should always be an important consideration when choosing a race, it's just that everyone has a different idea of what good value is

GKD
23/09/2013 at 23:30

I might be influenced by considerations of value for money with a marathon or even a 50 miler.  

With a 100 miler I will go with an organiser that I trust, and pay whatever they want. 

Its only money at the end of the day. 

Edited: 23/09/2013 at 23:33
WiB
24/09/2013 at 08:14

alwaysinjured - Costs can be kept pretty cheap as you have identified. I do enjoy the races where you pay £3 to run. Some of the bigger races provide more than just a number to pin to your shorts though and that all costs. Off the top of my head I can think of :

- Medical cover
- Insurance
- Checkpoint food/drink
- Finish line food/drink
- Medals/Buckles
- Tshirts
- Transport to the start or from the finish back to the start
- Venue hire for start/finish
- Hire of timing equipment
- Vehicle hire and fuel
- Portaloo toilets

The cheap races still exist, so if thats what you want to do you are not forced to pay any more. I don't see the problem?

WiB
24/09/2013 at 08:27

WiB The example I cite is no different from any LDWA event, and pays for all in your list, BUT they charge £11not £35- so the costs are covered in the lower price.

What really annoys me is races which coerce marshalls to marshall for free, in a clearly for profit race - and many are of that type which I view as a scam.  The OMM / Karrimor for example.  All should get paid, or none.

WiB
24/09/2013 at 08:47

A quick look on the LDWA site and picking one of their challenge events at random they appear to provide :

"Entry: £11 incl badge, cert; refreshments at some Cps & cooked meal at finish; transport for retirees"

It misses a fair few of the points from my quick list above. That is how it is kept cheap. In fact that example misses nearly all of them.

There is a place for both types of events and we have the luxury of choosing which we do. On top of that there are events that take the p!ss with their price but they are pretty easy to spot and avoid...

WiB
24/09/2013 at 09:46

WiB - Now check out LDWA guidelines for event organisers, instead of reading event summaries.

Where relevant, all of them are covered. You cannot operate an LDWA event without adequate insurance, medical cover etc. Only point to point event need transport, and my analogy - the trail26 rivington is not point to point, and I will warrant it uses the loo facilities at the venue, not portaloos which tend only to be needed for massive fields in out of the way places.

 

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