Saxon Shore Ultra Trails...

Anyone know them?

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24/06/2013 at 09:46

Hi all,

Anyone done any of their events or know what they're like as a company? Just wondering if you guys had any feedback...? Tempted to give one of their events a go, but hadn't even heard of them....

24/06/2013 at 10:35

I think that most people on this site are Centurion loyalists. 

24/06/2013 at 12:10

I've been looking at their races too, might consider something next year, although also fancy the Cotswold Centuries next year too, waiting to see how calendar pans out etc., but they look like they could put on a good race. Nice to see some other events beginning to crop up.

Ben - Centurion are great, no denying that, and a big thing in their favour is that you can run as an unsupported participant ... (that's why I loved the SDW race last year) but, I wouldn't say most people are loyalists, just mainly those who live in the South of the country and can do all their races!!

24/06/2013 at 14:01

I am a centurion fan too, after doing the TP, they were fantastic. Always on the lookout for new stuff . I think they must be a new company though...!?

26/07/2013 at 15:25

I did the White Cliffs 50 this March.  The written directions were awful.  The aid stations were good.  Chilli con carne at the finish was ace!

27/10/2013 at 10:08

Anyone that knows what happened to their races? Their website is not working and they do not answer e-mails. It gives me a creepy feeling. Cancelled?

I'm registered to WC100 and NC100 and have hotels and flights from Sweden booked. All non-refundable. If the races are cancelled then I want to know that a.s.a.p. since that increases the chance that I might be able to "salvage" some of it.

I was looking forward to for the first time seeing the cliffs at Dover and Canterbury.

pmo
27/10/2013 at 14:04

From what I've read online the TG100 was a complete disaster this year. I leave google to fill you in on the details.

Sounds silly, but have you emailed them? They responded fairly promptly when I contacted them last year

pmo
27/10/2013 at 15:31

Website looks fine to me. When did you email the race organiser? You have to remember that most race organisers have a day job and not everyone is like Centurion who use race fees to fund their life and racing.

 

I am not loyal to Centurion. They actually make me angry every time I run near my house and still see the NDWR route spray painted on the pavement months after the event.

27/10/2013 at 16:35

UltraCas, that's not good.  It's exactly why I won't do any of the Great Barrow Challenge events - permanent markers on every flat surface around.  Makes me angry every time I see them.

27/10/2013 at 17:08

They have had terrible write ups and from people who are very experienced. 

27/10/2013 at 17:52

Ultracas I'm really sorry about the chalk paint still being visible on the ground. It should wash off with the first rain and when I've tested it, it disappears rapidly, if it's still there then we'll have to reconsider our use of it. Certainly reduce it. Where exactly is the paint that you can see? How long do you usually see it hanging around.

Just to clarify that Centurion is just me (james) and I'm the only one that draws anything from the company. I appreciate that still might be a controversial thing in UK ultrarunning, however I assure you it is not a lucrative business, it's actually the coaching and small online store that allow me to do it full time. 

27/10/2013 at 19:57

James: I'm out on the SDW regularly, and your paint there has always vanished within days.  Could the marks UltraCas is seeing be from a different event?

(The long barrow signs are unmistakable.  Stickers with the event name permanently stuck to any flat surface including road signs.  Fury.)

27/10/2013 at 20:06

Peronel: Possibly. NDWR isn't a marking that we suggest the marker uses, but that certainly doesn't mean it isn't us. I'm super conscious of the marking we put out, I HATE seeing course markings left up when out trail running once an event has passed, so I can understand the frustration with that and if the paint is hanging around we need to consider how much/ if we use it. 

27/10/2013 at 21:12

It isn't marked as NDWR but it is definitely from that event. The markings are in Knockholt and on pavements...maybe it doesn't come off that kind of surface as easily? They're covered in leaves at the moment so let's hope that helps break it down.

The other problem with it was the amount of marking - some of it was where there was no other option other than straight on. If runners need nannying that much then they shouldn't be out alone!

Edited: 27/10/2013 at 21:15
27/10/2013 at 21:59

Indeed. I am down there next week so I'll take a look. Thanks for replying. 

As for removable markers, they are only there during the race and you'd be surprised at how easily a tired runner makes a mistake so we do put a lot out, but we take them down following the last runner in the field, never post event. That helps us clear up any race (and other) trash too. It's a lot of work to mark a course that way but in my experience, it is worth it. Apologies if you think it is overkill but most runners appreciate it. 

28/10/2013 at 09:27

pmo: Yes. I've e-mailed them several times over the last couple of weeks. The last (quick) reply I got was in the beginning of September.

Regarding the website: I only see a "Maintanance mode"-page. And a google search does not result in anything but the "Maintanance mode"-page. This has been going on for some time.

I knew about some of the negative comments before I registered. I disregarded those about navigation since I consider it to be the runner's responsibility to navigate. For these races one cannot rely on a route description in words no matter how good it is. One has to be able to read maps, to bring the maps and to actually use the maps during the race (and a compass). That's why I've already bought OS 1:25000 maps for these races and was planning on spending a few days on checking the routes on them and on Google satellite maps. My opinion is that one cannot blame anyone else if one skip actively using maps.

Nevertheless, the negative comments is something that adds to my worry about the status of these races.

Is anyone else of you registered to WC 50/100 and/or NC 50/100?

Edited: 28/10/2013 at 10:07
pmo
28/10/2013 at 10:12

For the TG100, it wasn;t just the instructions that were wrong I'd recommend a read of this

http://ogeerunner.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/thames-gateway-103mile/

pmo
28/10/2013 at 10:59

I knew about that blog when I registered to NC100 on Oct 9 but not when I registered to WC100 on Sept 4.

WC appears to get better reviews which means that there is a difference in quality between the races. Life is usually not just black and white. Therefore, I disregarded info in the blog that I considered connected to just TG100.

I noticed just a few days after I registered to NC100 that the website was no longer working. Have I lost out completely with WC100 and NC100?

28/10/2013 at 11:22
Hi, I'm glad I found this thread.

I've also registered for the WC100 and was a bit concerned about the website being down. I'm now more concerned if they're not replying to you, Jan.

It would be good to know if I need to carry on with my current training plan or if I can take it easy over Christmas!
28/10/2013 at 12:14

Don't give up the training. My flights from Sweden are non-refundable so I've started to look for a UK-backup plan for which I can use the flights, but I will no matter loose the money for the hotel bookings and the maps (and the registration fees?).

The Green Man Ultra on March 1 and St Peters Way Ultra on March 2. Both roughly 45 miles. It seems possible to make a double (still short of 100 miles). Would be my first "multi-stage" ultra. And Enduroman100 on May 31-June 1. Still just backup plans, but I would like to activate them asap so that I can book hotels and National Express while still cheap. Booking early has worked for my 97 previous ultras.

But first: Is it still possible to race on the Cliffs at Dover?

Edited: 28/10/2013 at 12:41
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