The SNOD ultra runnig thread

DE, I don't know about you but I'm worried about those cutoff times. They're a bit tight aren't they? As for fuel, pork pies and Marmite & cucumber sandwiches should do the trick.

HM60 as well BN? Have a good one

Drunken Euphoria on tour wrote (see)

Passed somebody all hnched up walking beneath an umbrella today, Skinny teenager, who said as I passed "WHy would you run in this?". 

My stock answer is It`s cheaper than ruuning a shower

enjoy HM 60

I find constant grazing whilst running rather than waiting for feed stations works best for me, that way I avoid peaks and troughs in energy levels which in turn helps me mentally to stay positive, don`t ignore the value of BEETROOT JUICE either 

Have a GOOD`UN

FR - Are you a beetroot juice believer?! I have tried it before one race and I was pretty certain it worked so will be trying it again in the week leading up to caesars camp. Only thing I am unsure on was the quantity required? What are your thoughts?

 cheers for more succinct response suggestions guys. I think I would have scared said skinny teenager to death or appeared to be some kind of weirdo (or moreso than is true) had I stopped and started explaining my reasoning

BN - Must admit I rarely check cut-offs as usually only have an issue in fell races. Trail events usually seem less harsh and I only find myself checking if I blow it big time! As ultra-trail events go I guess its quite tight, 3hr for first 9m, 6hr for 21m, 7hr for 26m, 10hr for 41m, 13:30 for 52m. Seems odd that after 3mph allowance for first 9m - I know some people start steady, but... - that the stakes are then upped so that you have to have moved at 4.1mph for first 10 hours. And the third cut off seems to make the second cut-off redundant, it was originally 7:30, but at 7hr the 1 extra hour for further 5m from cut-off 2 is odd. I'm not worried myself unless I have an off day as form has been good, but I know there are usually a fair few people behind you and me in trail events we do Nick and they have it tough.

Not tried Beetroot, but Chia has worked well for me on some training runs and as a recovery aid.

Oops... bad maths above should be 11hr for 41m, which sounds far more doable.

Not sure what the rain will have done to the course, but it's generally a nice runnable surface on the short stretches I have covered, but it is constantly undulating.

WiB wrote (see)

FR - Are you a beetroot juice believer?! I have tried it before one race and I was pretty certain it worked so will be trying it again in the week leading up to caesars camp. Only thing I am unsure on was the quantity required? What are your thoughts?

 

Swear by it WIB around 70ml is about right.

 

Now here is a challenge 

http://thenorthpoleexpedition.com/?gclid=CLLaveGC2bICFaXKtAodL10AiQ

Good luck Tim I for one will be watching your progress

Don't see many fells there ! 

have a good run boys

if i was doing it again id bag some fish n chips in scarborough...you're spoilt for choice along the front..and theyd help pass the time as the front never seems to end :0

fr..you and your beetle juice...btw have you seen valet king at all 

Tough run the HM60 (or 63.5). Not quite sure why, but legs more mush than normal over a long trail event - must be all the steps into and out of ravines every few miles. Quite happy breaking 13 hours. Like most, probably started a bit fast, but held out well and made places in last 25. With 160'odd entrants it got quiet lonely out there for long periods after 30m point, really made for an interesting experiance and weather was great - sun and quite a lot of wind assistance.

Top notch marshalling too, coudn't be more friendly and helpful!

Good going, DE.  I was thinking of doing that one but plans didn't work out.  Perhaps another year.

I'm back running now but it's all a bit slow.

Beetroot juice is one the vilest-tasting drinks I've come across. It would be a real commitment getting that down every day.

Nice one DE, well done and with the places gained at the end sounds like you ran a smart race.

Beetroot juice is not topping the taste list but if it is very cold then I can drink it no problems. I will be trying it in the week leading up to Caesars Camp at the end of the month.

Sub 13? That's an awesome time DE. I know why your legs were mush. It's all that running and speed. Mine weren't too bad (better than after High Peak 40). I know why that is too - lack of running speed.

Still, at least I beat the cutoff but it was closer than I would have liked.

I shove beetroot through my juicer with apples, pineapple, lime and a bit of celery which I find OK! But agree, downing it on it's own is grim. Does it work similarly if you just eat the beetroot (like the pre-packs you get in the supermarket)? They are much nicer.

I tried chia on some training runs before the SDW 100 and on the SDW 100 too, think it was of benefit but haven't tried it often enough to be sure so that's what I'll be getting back to once my long runs have got a bit longer!

Sub-13 for 63+ miles - wow!