The SNOD ultra runnig thread

Forgot to say I find a 10k to be the most brutal and painfull distance to run, with a descending degree of discomfort as the miles mount up again that may well just be a mentality thing with me as I deliberatly train my mind as well as my body to cover long distances.

I am sort of with you on that one Fellrunner. 

10k events or less are the only ones that I never get any pleasure out of running!

With you there (10k), the only thing that come from all that effort is a MM:SS number, which will more often than not be underwhelming anyway. XC is a lungbuster, but the East Yorks series are like trail runs and spread in rural locations around the county. A nice social (before and after anyway) and the numbers aren't so important as long as you beat as many of the other team's members as possible

Neither is much use in the respect that you can't follow them up with a slap up feast guilt-free. Love the 20+ milers for that

Hmm no comment, never run a 10k.

Yes, I'm easing myself back into some running, Fellrunner.  Next outing is 33 miles in the Black Mountains, Mar 23.

As you know I always like to tell running-related stories but I keep them fairly brief on this thread.  I probably don't do enough to inspire you guys!  You inspire me.  You're all stars.

I've never done a 5K.  That's lunacy.

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I take it that's the MCN race T Rex? One of my all time favourite routes but unfortunately it clashes with the TP100 this year and I promised to help out at that

Ah MCN Motor Cycle News my Favorite newspaper top read bet you didn1t know Motorcycling was another passion of mine.

That's the one, Lirish.  I'm thinking it's going to be very boggy up there.

My introductory race for 2013, easing myself back in.

I am seriously toying with the idea of entering the Swiss Iron Trail 201. 

Perhaps I should lie down untill the feeling goes away. 

fr..me and my good friend and ex-snod forumite steve zodiac are popping up your way early saturday for a little jog round an improvised kentmere horseshoe..that wont be a horseshoe after the improvisations. around a 0900 start from the chapel if you're around. if not we'll be in wilfs gorging afterwards. i'll send him your love either way

Give my regards to s-z, cd.

I'm just re-reading "Feet in the clouds".  Gets the juices going.

So in BGR you go up Broad Stand?  Grade III scramble.  In 10Peaks it seems you would be DQ'd if you take that route.

Hi all,

T Rex, I believe its a shortcut option if you've got a man with ropes for BGR. Not suppported that section or ever seen Broad Stand (I went up scafell pike via Mickeldore one time I went up and it was so claggy I wouldn't have seen it till I walked into it had I turned right rather than left) so I don't know how scary it is or if doable without ropes if your a brave type, but with X many thousand feet of ascent and descent in legs

Ben - Those trails look good, good look if you go for it, guess thats the natural progression from a big european 100m+ Because its not like any of us on here are ever satisfied to complete a tough challenge or distance and "leave it at that", there's always another challenge

CamLo - Well done on tough guy, across wales sounds a great challenge.

CD - Say hi to SZ from me. Hope to run into you both at a run soon.

Returned to something like the find of running I was doing last year this past Saturday. Great little Wolds 18miler, was flying at first on slightly firmed mud and in new La Sportiva XC (good cheap shoe). Got a few good short ascents/descents in first hour at easy 6mph+ pace. But slowed in next 30mins and despite running well in most runs right now as often running quicker to compensate for less time and lower weekly mileage I found the last 90mins of my 3hr/18m route tough. probably not helped by fastish pace for me and a light breakfast too many hours earlier. Legs needed that prior to Osmotherley marathon next week I think!

Hey DE, your doing it..will see you there Hope weather is kind for us..could be kinda bleak with the wind chill we have had here today. Being a novice in the trail marathon scene, how many 'hours' should I add on to a Snod time of 3:50 do you think? Just need to factor in how much grub to pack. Also, do you know if we get any communication etc from organisers or is it a just turn up job.

Ta v much for advice. CD, are you and Charlie coming along?

I would say that Broad stand would appeal if you had fresh legs and were of a scrambler/rock-climbing inclination, otherwise probably not - based on the last time I was confronted with it while carry a fully-loaded overnighting pack a few years back!!!

Have been looking at the 10 Peaks (Lakeland) myself, was meant to be doing WHW race but have pulled out due to logistics of having to sort out a support crew and childcare for weekend (husband can't do both!!) and this appeals to me - would love to do BGR one year.  Still a few logistical challenges getting to this from NE of Scotland but only me to worry about for this. Anyone on here offer any insight into the race?

Need to get dodgy tendon on ankle sorted first though or I won't be doing anything!!

Hi brer, see you there, a change from cold wind, rain would be nice, but I'll be ready for all eventualities come the day (if its windy and rainy on Carlton bank it can be quite harsh). Hard to know how much time to add on for your first trail marathon, depends on how you handle the ground conditions, but if you've run a some off road through last summer, autumn and maybe winter you'll be ok - on this course, pretty hilly, as a guide maybe look at between 5-6.5 hours depending how hard you attack it and trail conditions. Start off nice and steady and you'll be ok - I think the fact there is an uphill from the off should make a steady start a necessity for most. Looks a good route from the map, climbs at start, onto the moor to undulate around awhile, then onto the cleveland way for the undulating to hilly section from about mid distance on the Cleveland way (watch out for Wainstones at about 15m - lots of up and down in this section), from 19m (Carlton bank) the biggest climbs are over and its overall downhill Cleveland way bits and much of it is on good compacted path/trail, moor bits I'm not sure as not covered all ground. If its dry from now till then could be quite runnable, but this seems unlikely so I'd expect some mud.

Jon usually puts plenty of info on website and check blog section of site for updates too http://www.hardmoors110.org.uk/cms/?q=blog. Usually a lot of chat on facebook page for Hardmoors too http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/117213388305594/605326029494325/?notif_t=group_activity (his name on their is 'Roseberry topping'). But from recollection of other events there won't be a lot of email or postal contact barring initial email details after entry, all the bits you need will be there at registration on the day. But don't let that put you off, he organises very good events and their is a great community feel amongst the participants, organising team / CP staff!