The SNOD ultra runnig thread

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12/07/2010 at 10:02
5hrs 15m on the Clwydian range for me also wearing intended L50 kit. Still Bone dry under foot in my part of N.Wales - in fact very concrete like. Still have an achilles niggle which didn't bother me as much during the Osmo - could be down to shoe choice - Did Osmo in F-lite's which performed spot-on as apposed to my usual Mudroc's.
12/07/2010 at 12:05

Sound`s like a good outing SZ I reckon one of the joy`s of running is the distraction that the niggles give us much better than the mundane everyday things we should be focusing on.

Are you still planing a Paddy Buckley next year?

Edited: 12/07/2010 at 12:06
12/07/2010 at 13:08

FR - I keep a bit quiet about that, because of the massive challenge I know it will be - not so much doing it on the day, but the training needed to get in shape for it. With the beginning of this year being hampered with those 'niggles' we're talking about. I must confess to having second thoughts as to whether I can manage said niggles and prevent them becoming more serious - particularly knee and achilles. They would both need to be in good shape to step up the effort needed to do a Paddy Buckley. There is also home life management! Two of my kids are 'difficult' and I need to be around to help the missus manage them! - Bla bla - I know.

I'll take each event as it comes, and to be honest until I've completed the L50 and may be the Fellsman or something similar, I won't know if it's possible. I haven't written it off though, not just yet.

12/07/2010 at 13:15

Mums the word SZ.

Low key is the best approach IMO let us know when you have completed it though, or better still just pat yourself on the back for a job well done happy in the knowledge that you have nothing to prove to anybody other than yourself.

Trying to get my head round whether or not I want to do a 24hr circuit race on Tarmac, never done one before and I can`t help thinking as a one off it might be fun, although maybe not on tarmac, but maybe on a proper track

Edited: 12/07/2010 at 13:16
12/07/2010 at 13:24
One of our old timer club members has done a few races like that - Mega distances on a track - outdoor and indoor type things and other longer track events - Ill have to catch up with him and find out a bit more detail!
12/07/2010 at 21:00

Thanks SZ this is the 24 hr race that is taking my fancy at the moment:-

Perth 24 hour

I figure it might be fun to know how far I can go in 24 hours in a controled situation.

12/07/2010 at 21:28
Looks like EUPH had a good training session at the Wasdale, still don`t know if he made the right shoe choice though FWIW I would have gone for a nice Grippy walsh for those nice wet slippery rocks, might not be as fashionable as some but then seldom does fashion win over function when the chips are down.
Edited: 12/07/2010 at 21:53
13/07/2010 at 09:36
I Was in TK-Max Sunday treating myself to a bit of everyday wear - There was a pair of Walsh 'fashion runners' I honesstly couldn't make out whether they were fashion only, or retro useable runners? Anyway i opted for a pair of Converse baseball boots much more the job for treadig the carpets at work. Never tried Walsh on the hill -  but can vouch for Inov8 F-lites in the bone dry (Osmo) and also for fast descending on wet rock (Cader Idris race) I'm thinking they'll be what I'm wearing for L-50 rain or shine - They seem to be easier on my Achilles problem. Off to check out Perth 24 hour
13/07/2010 at 11:53

It will be New Balance 875s for me on the Lakeland 100 just perfect for the conditions. and I know that the cushioning is ideal for the distance, and the lockk down liner I find ensures the shoe stays where you planted it on the ground, and there is no rolling of the shoe on the foot and the rock plate is perfect on bit`s Like Scarth Gap pass, which should mimimise bruising to the feet, the shoes will be teamed up with a pair of £2-50 ALDI running socks, and the feeet themselves will be give a liberal dusting of CornFlour, so that`t the traction sorted.

Edited: 13/07/2010 at 12:00
13/07/2010 at 12:06

Corn flour -you gonna run on 'em or eat 'em?

13/07/2010 at 12:24
Run on em blister free SZ
13/07/2010 at 12:27
An honest question FR - What happens to the Corn flower when your feet get wet/sweaty? doesn't it turn into some sort of pastry?
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13/07/2010 at 12:53

 would think it would turn to some sort of glue.........

going to be nice not to do a long run this weekend

13/07/2010 at 13:11

http://s4.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/339061/gallery/bear_wellington.jpg?width=301&height=322


13/07/2010 at 13:26

Yep i reckon I could demolish that after the 100 SZ

No I have never had a problem with using Cornflour on my feet..

The theory as I understand it is that most foot powders are mineral based i.e. ground up rocks and therefore conductors of heat which means that after a while they are abrasive.

Whereas Cornflour is vegetable based and as such removes heat and does not become abrasive.

Well it works for me and quite a lot of other Utra runners.

Enjoy the break from a long run SN, for my part i will stick in one more reasonable effort before the off

13/07/2010 at 13:37
Bon appetite FR! - I'm only going to be able to get something half-arsed done before the day, I may go and do something Thursday night that takes me into the dark for a couple of hours - to get used to headtorch etc - something I haven't used since winter mountaineering days.
13/07/2010 at 13:46

Ah self perambulation at night is by far and away my favorite aspect of ultrarunning.

Don`t forget when racing to keep the use of the torch to a minimum and cover all reflective strips on clothing etc (especially if you know where you are going) otherwise you will find half the field of competitors using you for navigation purposes then as dawn breaks off they go.

Edited: 13/07/2010 at 13:52
13/07/2010 at 13:58
I experienced a bit of that in the Osmo FR in daylight - I knew I was bearing wrong across fields heading to wood after Locker Wood Frm ( I figured using landscape features to my left and correcting my self once I'd covered the open easy running ground ) would be as quick as fishing out my map etc - I had a little laugh to myself when I noticed THREE runners were following me into an obvious dead end! It was maps outall round once they realised. Looking back I should have referred to the map - it would have been slightly quicker than hand railing on that kind of ground.
13/07/2010 at 14:08
FR - Not wanting to tempt fate etc - but I'm trying to work out a rough pace for myself for the L50 . Looking at slowest time figures on the L50 site - If I halved them, it gives me 12 hours - I did HP 40 in 8hrs thin comparison I know - but what do you reckon on 12? in reasonable weather
Edited: 13/07/2010 at 14:12
13/07/2010 at 14:12

Yes it makes you chuckle, tis even better when there are a couple of  strong contenders in an event , with opposing team mates deliberatly taking longer lines thus allowing the teams best hopes to take the quicker one`s.

Did someone mention Gamesmanship

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