The SNOD ultra runnig thread

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16/07/2010 at 11:38

will do,..feet haven't touched the ground this week..hardly been in and when i am its bedlam..so not much posting

will pop by later

16/07/2010 at 11:40
Good man!
16/07/2010 at 14:29

So last night in order to get a feel for running the 50 I followed a 'road book' which i'd previously written in the style of L50. Even though I know the route well. I stopped at every key point on the route I covered (about 23m) and read each description using head torch when needed etc. I was prepared to do a wet weather change even if it had been dry! As it was that change was forced upon me. Am I cracking up?

16/07/2010 at 14:37
er...yeah
16/07/2010 at 14:38
Get your ass around here boy!
16/07/2010 at 14:42

will do

you've given me an idea

im going to practice getting lost then unlost tomorrow..so if im not in on monday..

16/07/2010 at 14:43
You don't need to practice that CD
16/07/2010 at 14:45
hahaha
16/07/2010 at 18:42
I heard this place existed, I'll have a catch up
16/07/2010 at 21:29

FR - Great thread, wish I'd looked in sooner. Never realised how crackingly you'd done at Os Phoenix, you must be peaking just right for lakes.

SZ - thats was a cracking hard endurance run in all weathers and well into the night. I reckon you'll storm it.

CD - Enjoy the Amb -> Con leg. easiest bit is at start, best bit at end

Dress Rehearsal for me tomorrow. Only about 10-15m but I'm going to pick a nice undulating bit of Wolds (cheers for Grough intro FR, invaluable in last few months) and do out and back to maximise the hilliness. Might not get any 500+ footers in, but some buits you can get a few 300footers in a small area back-to-back-to-back.

As for next week, I'm going to have a dead easy week (well, as much as I can with the "chaos" aspect of work) with no running after wednesday and eat well (like I don't do that anyway). I've got a half decent plan of what I need to carry in my head, but probably will put something to paper at weekend and checkout updated roadbook re. food and drink.

Edited: 16/07/2010 at 21:33
seren nos    pirate
16/07/2010 at 22:24
all being well I should be fast asleep in my little tent this time next week
19/07/2010 at 10:05
Ended up fishing Sweethope Lough. Northumberland. Little competition with my brother to make things interesting. SZ won 3 - 1 Rainbow's about 2lb - perfect pan size, I know this because one was in the pan last night! Observed a pair of Ospreys most of the morning also fishing the lough - nice to see. Too much wine over the weekend though. Running wouldn't have been wise for me this weekend. Had some intresting twitches and 'needle' pain complaints from my knees due to them being well worked over the last three weeks. Now looking forward to Saturday.
19/07/2010 at 12:27
oh yes fr, you bet..up for the full monty in 2011..hows that for quick re-ignition
19/07/2010 at 13:26
fr..im not doing a 100 as a training sesh for a 100! one 100 will be my lot. and no fellsman..it doesnt float my boat so to speak...no i'll be probably flinging it and/or maybe cateran trail, maybe doing st cuthberts way as a little adventure, then recceing the 100 over 3 consecutive days as a little holiday plus a few build up smaller things..hows that sound..im loving it
19/07/2010 at 13:29

Thanks for the pointer to the alternative thread, sz. Good call fr for setting it up. It wasn't right our hijacking the SNOD thread so much. I hardly posted but always felt guilty.

I started to look at the L100 road book last night and started to update last year's Tracklogs map. The guided recces of over 1 year ago came flooding back. It's nice to see more checkpoints in real buildings instead of tents and Land Rovers.

19/07/2010 at 13:35
I don't feel guilty BN - in fact it was reading some of the stuff you Ultra nutters were doing on the Snod thread that inspired me to have a go.
19/07/2010 at 17:09
Fellrunner wrote (see)

So I figure the Boggy bit`s are going to be good and moist  this coming weekend, and the crossing of the Becks should be Interesting , I am glad my choice of running shoe is a quick drying one (i dont use sealskinz can`t be arsed with poncing around trying to stop water getting inside them, my attititude is, water to cross then get it done as quick as poss, usually without taking the risks associated with slippery rock hopping.

 on the subject of which there appears to be an interesting development on the Hardmoors 100, in that they are proposing to allow experienced runners to go Unsuported with one bag drop, I have not checked my Diary yet but all of a sudden the Hardmoors 100 seems very appealing.

Like you EUPH I have commited Pen to Paper and for my part at least come up with some startling results(some things are best not done IMO) I hope the dress rehersal went well .


I have same approach to crossing water FR, having done a lot of winter (sometimes summer) long runs in watery places such as Ilkley moor, west yorks and peaks the last few years I've got quite used to having wet feet for hours. Can't see the point in waterproof socks and as goretex trail shoes for reason you mentioned. Seems like overcomplication, though on the other hand I'm all up for "gear" technology when I deem it useful.

I could be interested in Hardmoors 110 again. Though I guess I may lack the experiance, one for future thought.

My pen to paper ended up being a list of hours and miles done per hour. Very rough and rounded to nearest whole mph, varying depending on day, night, section climb and stage of event - though only two numbers used (you can probably guess what they are ) so not massively scientific. Doubt it'll be accurate, but felt reassuring to do it. Also trying to figure out how much food and drink to carry. Came out with not much as CPs sound well stocked with stuff I can eat, but may be nice to have a treat during those 10m stages and, of course, emergency.

Did just under 15 on Saturday over a few hills, happy with pack and identified a few niggles I'll correct for day. Not really enjoyed as kept dwelling on aforermentioned pacing and food thoughts. I'll be using OMM Adventurelight 20 pack. Two bottles in side pockets but tilted forward so accesible. pack is bigger than needed so compressed it down and is very light material so no issue there.

Yep, i'm enjoying this guilt free, ultra, offroad, indulgent posting Welcome aboard Nick.

SZ - result on the fishing, maybe a useful skill for a long ultra in lakes?

Edited: 19/07/2010 at 17:13
20/07/2010 at 04:49
Fellrunner wrote (see)
Fellrunner wrote (see)

I will also carry the minimum amount of calorific food i know i will need to fuel me round using what i find at Cps as a bonus

and not forgetting whatever you can forrage in the hedgerows fr!

(btw thanks for that..all in hand)

20/07/2010 at 08:43
my feet were soaked early on on saturday..and remained that way
20/07/2010 at 14:45

I felt gutted for Schleck, but "those are the knocks", like you say FR we wouldn't do the same other than if somebody had a serious injury. I wouldn't stop if my rival needed to tie his shoelace (as close a comparison as I can get between running and cycling). As Chris Boardman said if he'd had a chain guard it probably wouldn't have happened, all for saving about 50gram he's probably lost the chance of winning entire event.

I do love TDF, I guess its the sort of multi-day endurance event that appeals to posters on this kind of thread. Love to see a running event get same exposure... that wasn't a road marathon.

Think i know which river crossing you mean, from weekend before last, they were pretty overflowing even then.

Don't forget you can get a dropbag dumped at Dalemain (~60m). I think I'll be putting something in that "to look forward to".

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