The Idle Banter non specific race ultra thread
me and sz did the last section in exact times of 1.24 if my maths are correct
i think i'd best stop posting to myself or i'll be carted away
FR - Sorry to hear you decided to retire. I can imagine the frustration of the errors and the scree run forcing you into that position. After all your prep sounded excellent.
CD - You've seen my comments on L50 forum, thats a great last section, I was 2:42 for that, in my own parallel dimension of speed . I also started dozing off on my feet after the inital climb, could have been the cocadamol a 50 competitor kindly gave me when I'd arrived at Tilberthwaite, quite emotional as I thought even if I got up the hill the final descent would be near impossible in my current state in 3 hours. Dulled the pain a bit so maybe that let tiredness kick in. A gel before the descent woke me a bit, but it was painful as I imagined. Next time.... more ibuprofen.
As others have said, great event, lots of highs and lows. Many times I feared I woukld drop out, but trying to remedy problems mostly due to feet I'd be given another lease of life. Post Ambleside I just gritted it out in a way I wasn't sure I could for 9hrs - a series of section I should have done in half that. It felt like two races to me, some of the first half seems like a strange, vivid dream! It was novel to be overtaken by the 50 race leaders after Dalemain and then several of the regular forumites and some great efforts and times out there.
My reward was 2/3 can of guiness (cheers Clairster) and after a sleep, an early evening meal in that Sun Hotel in Coniston (pricey - as per Coniston as a whole - but good freshly prepared grub) with Britnick and MarkD. Oh and 2 x cans scrumpy, 1xBluebird and one of the Langdale Brewery beers. Afterall I did lose 2.5 lb during event.
Again? Not sure, may try 50 next year. But I am planning on doing another 100. The hill conquering, endurance motivated, can do, outdoors-man part of me is immensely satisfied. The competitive devil whispering in my ear wants to conquer the 100 upto my own level of potential.
SZ - 7.7lb No wonder you were so fast at the end Where did you go up there? right across stream or left to ???? I'm glad that I hit this section in light, reckon it could be tricky, navigationally, in dark.
I'm glad I did the recces for some of the sections. Though I thought the roadbook was pretty good and didn't put more than a few steps wrong anywhere.
Next 100 would probably be the LDWA one next year. But then UTMB is only a ballot pick away if I chose to have a go
Now I just need to sort feet prior to Long Tour of Bradwell. Legs and such no stiffer than post-fellsman really. I plan to do pretty much no running till August now.
Just A bit of self preservation EUPH, yes I now regret the decision but at the same time I know it was the right one and i have avoided long turn damage
Sub 30 next year based on the fact I think I am going to become obsessed with the UTLD 100, my training has begun and there will be manyruns over parts of the course over the next 51 weeks if any body cares to join me.
Again well done everybody
ive decided to do more training up there if i can..though perhaps not my early morning midweek runs
the hills however nice down here in the peaks are simply not big enough to prepare you for the onslaught like that one
fr - glad you're in good spirits but have a day off..it'll do you good
I have now`t to feel down about CD, I had a great 60 mile training run and one of the biggest Laughs/wake up calls of my hill running experience (although not an experience that I intend repeating any time soon)
No planed event`s for me now until sept (that`s not to say I won`t find one or two though) then It`s LDWA Where eagles dare (Good one for You and Charlie) followed by PumLumon, high Peak and Langdale marathon.
I still can`t get shot of the daft idea of a 24hr track race, although after last weekend I do think it may be a tad uneventfull, and possibly a lot more damaging on the body (trapped nerve in my spine, acquired whilst coming to an abrupt halt on my scree run apart) .
DE - turned left at the obvious stream crossing (Thinking wrongly that this was a false direction) and continued up the left hand bank of crook beck and crossed by a lone tree onto a feint path - problem was the path remained feint until I was standing in no man's land. It took me a bit to sort out and dissect the correct path a bit further on. No complaints though, now it's reccied I'm confident I could knock hole in my 12hr 53min. I tend to drop weight up to 6lbs even on a short 22m hill traing run. Must have taken 7 or 8 litres of fluid on board and ate fairly well throughout.
Looking forward to reading about the scree section on DE's Blog FR. Back problem sounds a bugger and you did right looking after it.
Feet are now cleaned up, blisters covered, most cuts/small sore rubbing spots left just to breath and heal. Most of the blisters had to be squeezed, I reckon i could have filled a shot glass with all the greeny gunk Which means walking is now slightly faster. Feet were also quite swollen and not comfortable in shoes till today.
FR - 30 hours is quite a target. Knowing the hills would certainly help and running them day in/out to develop the strength and resistance to damage. Get in the miles and I reckon it would be doable for most of us on here. Hope you can get the trap nerve sorted, those begars can be persistant.
SZ - Yes the path did stop and start a bit. Obvious enough in day but at night I can imagine tricky.
There were a few bits like this first night. Off blacksail pass I completly lost the trail so found it again by heading for the stream, river, we would cross further down. Then there were loads of people who missed the path heading through a wall in the next descent to Buttermere. I could see all these headlights way down below running along the valley bottom. Not sure if it was runnable down there or not, but the path we were on was rocky, bouldery, loose stone, HELL, right up there with the descent following the climb from Mardale Head.
``FR - 30 hours is quite a target. Knowing the hills would certainly help and running them day in/out to develop the strength and resistance to damage. Get in the miles and I reckon it would be doable for most of us on here. Hope you can get the trap nerve sorted, those begars can be persistant.``
EUPH that is exactly my plan, I have spent far to much time over the last couple of years or so running in the Yorkshire Dales and Peak District, whilst there is nothing wrong with that and I have enjoyed it but TBH it just does not compare with running the Lakes and last weekend Brought that home to me Big Time.
So 2011 will see me concentrating on Lakeland Fell racesagain ( I haven`t done one this year, daft or what?) with the Lakeland 100 being possibly my only real Focus
So Yes the goal is sub 30 for the 100 and yes the Lakeland fells will be run day in and day out and yes as EUPH says it`s Doable for most on here and this fella at least is going to pull it off, any body else ready to commit yet?.
My strength was not an issue this year neither was the damage to feet etc just the little Trauma that I brought upon myself, through complacency and lack of concentration.
Lessons re -Learned and I am heading back to the Lakeland Fells rather than the trails etc in the dales (although they have been fun), and almost no road running at all.
told you fr...best place in the country
saw a house for sale on drive out at near water yeat..got the details
my goal is simply to enjoy and complete it...that will be one hell of an achievement for me i can tell you
and like you fr..i will be in the lakes more..but not quite as much. in fact not nearly as much...unless....
Good Luck CD Water Yeat is just down the road from my place of work and that would make Weatherlam, Coniston old Man and Dow crag your training ground.
I reckon SZ will already be working out his bait for the Trout, Char and Perch that he will fish for in Coniston water when he visits you at weekends.
Do i ses a SNODUTLD100 posse forming here?
Well, with all respect to the Lakes I live within 40 mins of some decent hills which are Snowdonia - but I'd never say no to fresh Lakeland Perch smoked on a splayed stick over an open fire. Having done the 50 comfortably, I'm obviously fancying the 100. But there's still the Paddy Buckley in my mind. However I must put running even further back in my priority order at the moment - I have a big mountain to climb over the coming months in terms of a career continuation elsewhere, or maybe a change of career altogether - either isn't going to be easy to find in this current climate. Having said that, witnessing the resolve, tenacity and determination of some of my fellow competitors last weekend gives me hope that things that seem out of reach and all possibility can be reached.
FR Nothing you can do to prevent such an injury, just a bit of bad luck. Within 19miles I stubbed my toe, twice left and right within 5 meters of each other on the lakeside path of Haweswater. The first time, if I'd gone down (Which I nearly did) I'd have face planted into the rocks and surely would have been out of the game before 20m. By the way I ran it in Inov-8 X-Talon f-lites, (212 grms) and £1.00 tesco standard ankle socks. To be honest, apart from not much toe protection they were brilliant. My feet are flawless.
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