share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........
how much fat do you have in your diet currently?
Thanks for all that very much appreciated. To be honest my diet is pretty hugh in carbs as I eat a lot of pasta. Daily I do not eat much fat as such only in the guise of greek yogurt and cheese. I eat mainly fruit and have a brown bread chicken sandwich for lunch and perhaps pasta or meat and veg for dinner. Then in the eveing I might have the occasional cookie etc
i wouldnt say i eat a of fat..exceot for the 8 biscuits a day!!!
do you want the low carb diet to lose weight ? do you need to?
WiB: another year, maybe for CtoC: I have a XC to run for the club that day before dashing up to the Lake District ready for a Lakeland 50 recce on the Sunday.
October 8th is in my calendar..
Sorry Lou, I don't know why that has come up again! It IS in my calendar, but that's not so interesting everyone needs to be told twice...
You tell us as many times as you need to Rosemary!
by 'eck - What are the ultras? (distance, terrain etc)
Ok... well the principles of training remain. You need to train with the distance and terrain in mind but do not neglect other aspects of your running.
NDW for example. 50 miles of hilly trail. It is ideal that you are close to it so for your long runs then getting out on to the terrain is ideal. Taking a marathon training plain you can pretty much maintain it with the addition of back to back runs when you feel able to i.e 25 Sat 15 Sunday. With this extra mileage in mind keep an eye on your recovery, keep mileage up with easy recovery runs 60 - 90 mins for example but without stressing your legs much.
A lot of people have ultra runners down as super slow plodders. I am a big believer in maintaining speed work in my training for various reasons. Enforce good running form, to provide variety in my training, to improve dynamic flexibilty (a fast run will put your muscles through a wider range of movement than a slow run), to improve lung function and to improve how you use lactate. Obviously you will not need the speed of Mo Farah but try to include tempo runs, intervals etc at least once a week. Ideally midweek if your long runs are at the weekend to provide recovery time.
Babbling a bit but hope that helps!
BY ECKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ...YOU IZ GONNA DO IT!! -good girl!!!! WIB, by eck came to see me off at the start of NDW50 ...so we need to give her big HUGS if she does it...well, if you are there, coz you may not beeee...or she will have to hunt you down like i did...!! haha..
by eck.....what WIB said.....just run like you do now..but a teensybit further ..good gal
WiB wrote (see)
A lot of people have ultra runners down as super slow plodders. I am a big believer in maintaining speed work in my training for various reasons. Enforce good running form, to provide variety in my training, to improve dynamic flexibilty (a fast run will put your muscles through a wider range of movement than a slow run), to improve lung function and to improve how you use lactate. Obviously you will not need the speed of Mo Farah but try to include tempo runs, intervals etc at least once a week. Ideally midweek if your long runs are at the weekend to provide recovery time. Babbling a bit but hope that helps!
Good point about wider range of movement! If your training includes faster sessions etc involving a wider range of movement then during an ultra when you start getting tired and tightening up you can still continue fairly comfortably.Did the first of the club winter 3k series last night - ouch! but 11:11 which is pretty good for me! Off to the Toad Fri-Sun - weather looks going for plodding along Thames path! (haven't posted in a while but have been lurking )
Hello Jeremy how are you? hope you have a nice weekend on the Thames.
By'Eck Go girl
Hello Jeremy - hope you have a great time at the Toad - sounds like a fun event
WiB - interesting to read that - i've read conflicting advice, or arguments from both sides - I guess it's just what tends to suit each individual - I guess a variety of terrain helps a great deal as well - where I live is so flat I have to travel to do hill work, but I find that so much easier than doing speed work on flat tarmac - that's what causes me injuries. To be fair I do tempo runs though - just not intervals...
I'm definitely enjoy hillwork more than speedwork for sure. I try and do one hill session each week - off-road and then make one of my 5-6 mile runs in the week a tempo run - regardless of whether it's on trail or road. I definitely notice the difference when I do that; however if I'm off with injury and illness then it's just back to building up the longer mileage.
Hoping to try a 15-miler tomorrow, fingers crossed, will be the furthest since I've run since the SDW race ...
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