wannabe ultra runner?

share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........

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19/09/2012 at 20:34

AWWWWWWWW...cragc, i would love to be on your adventures with you!!..any time you are this way let me know!!

yes, its ITB, so you are right, just stretching ..and  a sign of age..

19/09/2012 at 21:11

Rocker - Good point. That is obviously my view on training not telling anyone what to do or that they are doing it wrong!

CC - I train alone except track sessions. I would love someone to join me on long runs but trying to sell 3 hours of running first thing sat morning to most of my mates doesn't work!

Lou - Welcome to the trail side its true... the grass really is greener!

19/09/2012 at 22:10

WiB - i'd love to join you for 3 hours of running on a Saturday morning! Just a couple of problems....

1. In your three hours you'd cover at least 20 miles... i'd cover 15

2. You're about 3 or 4 hours away from me!

Other than that...brilliant!!

Actually, going back to my other point - it's one of the things I love about ultras - there is no exact science, no fixed method after years of research - it's still trial and error, peoples preferences etc... You know if you're going to run a marathon there's hundreds of schedules, for every possible pace, that are all very similar, and as long as you follow it to the letter then you should get the result at the end...

In ultras you can find a schedule, and instantly find one completely different... Everyone has a different opinion, I think because when you start hitting 50 miles and above every single person reacts in a different way, and you have to train to suit that reaction... The science fascinates me - but at the end of the day, I just like to run, without really thinking about it.... which probably explains why I'm really rather slow

19/09/2012 at 22:33

Yup, that's pretty much what I love about it too. I do like a schedule of sorts, to keep me focussed, and LOVE putting them together, only to completely overwrite them in practice when real life has to be factored in. Like tmrw when I was hoping to head to hills for my 15 but sadly far too complicated a day so it'll have to be more local this time.  I do my long runs in the week usually if I'm not working so that's why I am often a lonely soul and it IS good discipline for those times on races when you are ambling along on your own for hours and hours and hours!

If I end up down South for an extended stay (usually in holidays) then I'll defo give you a shout LLB - my family are in Surrey and Dorset but that's not too far from Oxfordshire and there are plenty of places to meet in the middle I reckon!

19/09/2012 at 22:52

If you come down the A1 say hi as you go past - i'm only half an hour away from Peterborough LOL!!!

20/09/2012 at 07:28

cracg, thatd be great, Surrey isnt that far from me though so thats always doable too.

Wib, ive given up too trying to drag people out at 6am/7am for runs..it just gets wearing trying to gee them up so i go alone. my friend used to do up to 7 miles , but wouldnt be ready before 8am..so i used to get up , go do 5-7 first , THEN time it so i passed her house around 8am so she could join me for the next few-talk about make it easy for people...but STILL wasnt ready so i gave up.....perhaps people see us as a funny breed.

20/09/2012 at 07:33
Us? Funny? Nah, surely not?

My club does a run at 7am on a Saturday, but it's a fast one to meet up with the second group at 8am, which is still a fast group, and all on Tarmac.... Err, I'll give that a miss then
20/09/2012 at 18:48

by'eck: I worked up to 27/12 before my first 50K (London Ultra). I basically followed a combination of two schedules: "Run to the Toad" and the Ultraladies' 50K schedule - then changed things to fit in with the rest of my life. I think it's useful to look at some schedules to get an idea about what you need to do, but don't get too hung up on following them exactly. Of course, I was building up from HM (I didn't run my first maathon until after my first 50K), so you're in a better starting position.

20/09/2012 at 22:23

Change of subject - toenail advice please!

Whilst running UTPD I stubbed my little toe so badly I thought I'd detached the nail there and then, it was that painful! However, I hadn't and it was just going black (like a few of its neighbours).

However, I happened to check it today after my shower and realised that the whole toenail has lifted off the toe - the only thing that appears to be holding it is the cuticle!!

So - now what do I do?? I've never lost a toenail before - black ones I can deal with, no problem, they just grow out, but I really don't know what to do - whether I'll do damage pulling it off, whether I should tape it down?

So - help please!!!

Edited: 20/09/2012 at 22:26
21/09/2012 at 08:33

I would be tempted to let it come off by itself if you can protect it. I am no expert though!

21/09/2012 at 10:39

It'll come off itself. I just lost the nails from both my little toes, by the time they come off there's usually something already growing underneath. I doubt you'd do much damage if you hastened the process yourself. If it's catching on stuff and annoying you, I'd pull it off.

21/09/2012 at 10:47

Cheers Tiago


You ok?

21/09/2012 at 11:19

I'm getting there, buddy, I think. Thanks for your support, I genuinely appreciate it.

21/09/2012 at 12:42

What's the problem Tiago?

21/09/2012 at 13:11

Life crap, WiB, nothing interesting or running related.

21/09/2012 at 13:35

Ah ok... I hope everything picks up soon dude!

21/09/2012 at 13:36

Cheers, fella.

22/09/2012 at 06:19

WiB, good luck today!  I'll be looking out for you.

22/09/2012 at 06:27

I think I've identified the problem in my leg as hip bursitis, rather than an ITB problem.  Anyone had this and got any suggestions on how to improve it?

22/09/2012 at 07:05

Rosemary - This one got me last year, being a typical bloke it was  chronic before I would see the doc, it was very painful even when walking by the time I got checked out.

local surgery prescribed Diclofenac and total rest for 6 weeks, after 6 weeks total rest i took a little trot out and was back to square one, went back to docs who simply prescribed the same drug and layoff period.

Not wanting to lose another 6 weeks I went private and during the initial consutation received a cortisone injection 2 weeks later back running as if I had never had Trochanderic Bursitis A year later I get the odd twinge during high mileage weeks but thankfully so far no repeat of the scorching pain from before.

I have introduced two strength workouts a week paying particular attention to back, core, glutes, inner and out thigh to try and ensure I am stable around the hips.

I know cortisone injections are an emotive topic, the specialist and I spoke about it and his view was we were simply injecting a sack of fluid (bursa) to take away an inflammation and none of the soft tissue damage isssues usually associated with cortisone injections were really that valid in this case.

The docs were able to diagnse very easily through testing the range of movement or lack of it in my hips.



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