wannabe ultra runner?

share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........

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10/08/2011 at 10:21
Is that a trick question? IM = Ironman, although it was unbranded (Outlaw) so I don't want to get sued. So 2.4, 112, 26.2. And it was lush, I heartily recommend it.
10/08/2011 at 10:29
2.4mile swim
112 mile bike
26.2 mile run

If that's not far enough you can also do double, triple,quint and deca
10/08/2011 at 10:30
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10/08/2011 at 11:03
Tiago Hefner 2 wrote (see)
Is that a trick question? IM = Ironman, although it was unbranded (Outlaw) so I don't want to get sued. So 2.4, 112, 26.2. And it was lush, I heartily recommend it.

no it wasnt a trick question...i wasnt sure entirely how far the run/swim/bike ratios were for IM thats all, im not a pirate- yet  -so not familiar with it all Tiago
10/08/2011 at 11:05
Ironcedar (aka Hoofin) wrote (see)
2.4mile swim
112 mile bike
26.2 mile run

If that's not far enough you can also do double, triple,quint and deca

thanks ironcedar....id not heard ofthe quint....have you done the triple and quint?
10/08/2011 at 11:08
Can I be a duracell too?
10/08/2011 at 12:16

Loulabell and Tiago = you are both Oxford dwellers? I live up the thames in Abingdon *waves frantically*

NLR = Depends if you have enough lube?

Decisions decisions - I won't have time to train for both... ultra first or half-ironman type tri... anyone out there with experience that can suggest which would be a natural progression...?

10/08/2011 at 12:28

I went marathon - half ironman - ironman - now looking at ultras, but an ironman has always been my ambition, so i always knew I've been working towards that.

I'm a Didcot dweller (it's not that bad really) but I work in Oxford, cycle through Abingdon on my way home each night.

10/08/2011 at 12:40

I have a feeling that long-distance triathlons are going to be more difficult than ultras as you have three disciplines to work on to endurance level.

I'm reading the book Can't Swin, Can't Ride, Can't Run by Andy Holgate. He's a RW forum user and his going from zero to IM story is hilariously fantastic. It's a great motivator to anyone thinking of doing an IM distance challenge.

Didcot isn't that bad - it's got more going for it than Abingdon at the moment. I work in Swindon at the mo, so cycle Abingdon to Didcot train station most days. Used to work (and looking for work again) in Oxford and cycle or run to/from.

10/08/2011 at 13:57

HI BB

Maybe this video will make your mind up for you....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBw39uCT4Q

10/08/2011 at 14:32

I have done a few Ultras but I would NO WAY say I am experienced in this field.

 

However here are my thoughts:-

 

All I will say is when it comes to training for Ultra’s the time required to train adequately suddenly becomes a major factor. If like me you are not time rich (I have 4 children) then having a structured training plan and following it to the letter is very difficult.

For me I write my own plan and have a weekly goal mileage that I wish to achieve. I then grab the running opportunities as they come during the week.

 

In terms of the runs try and get used to back to back running maybe every other weekend. It does not need to be 2 long runs, one way to replicate this is to do a short but fast run in the evening and then do your long run the next morning. Remember what your trying to do is tune yourself into running on tired legs.

 

A major factor in Ultra’s is re fuelling the body, both in terms of fluid and food.

Get used to taking on fuel in your training runs; if your aim is to run a 50k then gels probably will be sufficient if you use them, anything longer you will need other food sources.

 

For me I don’t like gels generally although I have used them but tend to get sick of them after a few hours. I find the longer the Ultra the greater the variety of food your body will require.

 

When choosing food types try and go for food which has complex carbs as this will give you greater consistency in your energy levels. High sugar food / fluid sources like coke and sweets are great for the short term but over a long period inevitably you end up with a lot of highs and lows in your energy levels.

 

With regard to recovery post Ultra it all depends on your body’s recovery rate some people’s rate is longer than others. Also the distance of the Ultra will have a profound affect on recovery; a 50K will have a similar recovery rate to a marathon recovery for me around a week.

 

 A mid distance Ultra 50miles or 100K the recovery is still pretty good within a couple of weeks I am generally back to full training mode.

 

For me when I do 100mile plus Ultra the recovery rate can be a little longer but generally within a month I am back to normal.

 

For instance at the End of May this year I completed the GUCR (145mile Ultra), 25days later I took part in a 100mile Ultra which I would have completed but I got injured, I managed 31miles. I know 3 guys who completed the GUCR and went on to finish the 100miler.

Hope this helps.

10/08/2011 at 14:45

*quickly fumbles for earphones and discreatly watches video in open plan offce*

tee hee hee - So I'm a kn*b whatever I choose

Hmm, to smell bad and sh*t in the woods or to get an ar*e pounding and look like a tw*t! Decisions decisions. Well I do like TK Maxx... but then I do like pointy hats...  

10/08/2011 at 14:52

Think big, BB, I want to look like a tw*t and smell bad and sh*t in the woods.

10/08/2011 at 14:54

Thanks for the fab advice Bret Runner.

I'm tempted by the Welsh one day serious. 30mile, 40mile, 50mile then 40miles spaced across 9 months.

I am the same for training. Have my schedule for the week and fit in training when the time comes up and depending how strong (or not!) I feel. I managed marathon training without too many time issues.

10/08/2011 at 16:15
"thanks ironcedar....id not heard ofthe quint....have you done the triple and quint?"

I'm not that daft loulabell! (probably....)

I've just done single distance at the moment; last year. Am now taking some time to focus on some shorter stuff with the ultimate aim being to come back to IM/Ultra distance stuff in a couple of years having developed a bit of speed!

I would definitely recommend IM and tri in general; the atmosphere's great and because of the x-training factor you can increase volume much more quickly with less chance of injury.
10/08/2011 at 16:26

Hi All - I am doing the toad Challenge as My first venture in Ultras 30miles a day x 3 Days

I normally run a marathon around 3:30 + any advise on what I should try and aim for One person I have talked to suggested running 50 Minutes and walking 10 taking on fulids and food

This really is a starter for  me as I am running the MdS in 2012 so plan to do the Druid with full pack etc

Any advise greatly received 

10/08/2011 at 16:33

BB, yes im just outside of Oxford in a village...

Bret runner, i have the same time constraints, work and children and like you said the rigid training ultra schedules really wont suit me and i'll end up feeling like ive failed if i dont stick to it all the time..so i  will prob do the same and pre-plan long runs to suit whatever i have to fit around. the fuel thing is important and i dont like the gels idea, too much sloshing about in my tum!.....im going to have to work on the fuelling thing, im very small, dont weigh much and burn up food like you wouldnt believe...am wondering how im going to keep up with it!

10/08/2011 at 17:55

Want to do an IM today... was fixed on ultras yesterday... wooh is me!

 Lou - do you know of any decent small running clubs round here? h

BB

Edited: 10/08/2011 at 17:58
10/08/2011 at 19:46

Ultra vs Iron Man?

I have only done the former myself, but I know a couple of people who have done both. 

Their opinion seems to be that a 40-50 mile ultra is harder to do on the day, but an iron man is harder to train for. 

10/08/2011 at 20:05
On that subject, this is worth a look if you fancy a giggle:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8279147/ultra-runner-vs-iron-man

Sorry, you'll have to C+P, can't link in Chrome
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