wannabe ultra runner?

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22/03/2013 at 13:21
Hi all I'm just entering the world of ultras with my first one booked for June. At the moment I'm stressing about everything!!!
I know this is has probably been covered on here, but 7000 posts is a lot to catch up on!!! I was wondering about rucksacks how big? I need to carry first aid kit, food, jacket, survival blanket and fluid trying to do this on a budget any recommendations for a 5 foot 2 female?
Have been looking at decathlon, any good?
Any help greatly received.
22/03/2013 at 13:53

cupcake: I'm the same height as you. The main backpack I use is the Salomon 10+3 Wings vest, ladies S/M (in teal, if you're looking for it online). That takes a 1.5-2 litre bladder (the Camelbak 2 litre fits in, otherwise, a 1.5 litre) in a separate compartment, and has two little zipped fine mesh pockets on the front, and a zipped pocket and an open expandingmesh pocket on the sides, which you can get at without removing the pack (the open one expands enough you can stuuf hat, gloves, windproof jacket into it), plus a pocket on the back, and two mesh pockets (one zipped) inside the main compartment. I like it because it distributes the weight well, however it's about £90.

My back-up is the OMM 12 litre, which isn't bad and can generally be found for about £35, but it's less organised (1 x pocket on waist belt, one pocket on the back (outside), bladder compartment, main compartment).

For my first 50K I used a 5 litre Mizuno pack with a 1 litre bladder, which I got for about £15 and that was fine, but I got the larger ones for 50-milers and carrying more kit.

You want to get one NOW and start wearing it to get used to it. Try on in the shop if you can, with some weight in it.

Others may be able to tell you about Decathlon and Nathan packs.

Dean: Hi. I don't like fivefingers myself - too narrow in the midfoot (at least the Sprints I tried on) and the toes were way too long, which I thought I'd find distracting. But I run in VivoBarefoot Neos (up to 50-milers, so far).

22/03/2013 at 14:07
Thanks Debra for posting will check them out.
22/03/2013 at 15:59

cupcake , Nathan womens intensity vest. all you need.

(im 5ft 2ish, fits fine)

22/03/2013 at 16:24

Nathan womans intensity vest easily the most comfortable if I need to carry more gear I do still opt for the Salomon s-lab 12 pack, it is a fraction too long in the body for me though and I imagine could be a bit hot in the summer but otherwise great!

22/03/2013 at 16:36

touie, that was the problem with the larger backpack i had last year at ndw50. too long and made a bit of a mess of my lower back

22/03/2013 at 16:56

I am also a 5ft 2 person!!! I use the Nathan vest for summer races where there is plenty of support (checkpoints with food etc). I also have an OMM 12, which is great for races that are more remote (more weather, less support, more kit). That said, the straps could do with adjusting down a bit more for me as I'm pretty petite BUT I have used it for all my big ultras and it's been very comfortable and tends to carry the load around your lower back which is where you want it - hips/waist taking the load.  My vest is a newer purchase but I LOVE it and will use it on all shorter races.

So glad I did long run yesterday - is ABSOLUTELY baltic out there, air temp is 1 degree but with a howling easterly gale, the wind chill is fairly impressive I think!!!

Can't comment on Five Fingers but I am a big fan of Injinji socks, am definitely an Inov8 person mainly.

Bit peaved with my new mudroc 290s though, left ankle bone obviously sits lower than right on (or shoes are cut unevenly) as it dug into bone on yesterdays 15-miler - grrrr, think may have to take knife to it!!

22/03/2013 at 17:05

A knife to the shoe or the ankle?

I like my 5 fingers for short easy runs just to enforce good form and for strengthening... I would never race in them as you can go sooo much faster in shoes.

22/03/2013 at 19:17
loulabell wrote (see)

touie, that was the problem with the larger backpack i had last year at ndw50. too long and made a bit of a mess of my lower back

yes I was wondering whether a bit of duct tape on my back might stop it rubbing haven't tried it yet though

22/03/2013 at 19:20

You didnt see her back


22/03/2013 at 19:59
I'm doing the short stuff in xero shoes at the moment, and I'm finding them pretty fun.
Are we really having the back pack discussion again?
Edited: 22/03/2013 at 19:59
22/03/2013 at 20:35

Tiago: cupcake did say she didn't want to wade through 7,000 posts and I don't blame her.

Must make up my Xero shoes and try them soon!

22/03/2013 at 20:49
Its on every other page so not actually that far to go back.
22/03/2013 at 21:37

..its like the Twighlight zone in here isnt it.......

22/03/2013 at 21:38

touie, duct tape doesnt hold for long-they tried that on me!

22/03/2013 at 21:39

Hi Tigs*waves*

22/03/2013 at 21:53
Not me who mentioned back packs this time. Im still looking though. ...
22/03/2013 at 22:12

OK, I'll wait a couple of days and then ask about backpacks. 


Debra: The fit is actually quite different between the models. I've got the Bikila, KSO and the new waterproof one (essential for the winter) and they all fit differently. KSO is definitely the most generous.

WiB: I'm a 100kg ex rugby player, speed is not really even on my radar! All I'm after is not being in pain after a long run and until I tried running in vibrams that wasn't really possible. I've toyed with the minimalist shoes with a bit more cushioning but I honestly haven't needed it so far. My long runs are 30k at the moment so that may change.

I have to say I am genuinely surprised at the number of people in minimalist shoes. When I've spoken to people about it before it has been a fairly negative response. 


Anyway, about those backpacks.......




22/03/2013 at 23:56
Nutella! I have done new balance minimalist things and try and do a 3-miler in them every week, but backed off a bitlast couple of Weeks with various niggles going on!
23/03/2013 at 06:59
Dean - I race in minimalist shoes. Have done up to 100 in them without problem. I couldn't do it in my 5 fingers without a lot more training in them

Interested in how you get on.
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