wannabe ultra runner?

share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........

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20/04/2013 at 12:00

Layers: I tend to carry/wear a Montane Featherlite windproof, and carry in my backpack both a Montane Minimus and a Trekmates top which I bought several years ago which is light, packs down small (not much bigger than the Minimus), and is great as an "emergency" warm layer. On my way back on the train after long recces, when my body temperature falls, as it tends to do, I end up with all three layers on. SDW I ended up running wearing the Trekmates top under my Minimus to keep warm enough. I think it would have been too warm if I'd been able to run fater, but the combination of my ankle and the wind prevented that, so...

If the weather forecast is good I may leave one of those behind for NDW50 but I'll still take one or the other (waterproof or warm) on the basis that if I really injure myself and have to sit and wait for rescue, I don't want to be shivering. For me, carrying 200g (!) extra is worth the additional feeling of security.

21/04/2013 at 14:27

Thanks for the layers advice - will have a look at a few of those. My inclination is definitely towards the hillier events (despite lack of hills for training!), so they should come in useful.

Sounds like I need to find a stockist for the I-Gamy holders and try them with the pack. Hopefully should be able to try some at the OMM Lite if not before... Just really love the pack and find it so comfy that I don't want to have to try to find something else that is as comfortable!

21/04/2013 at 14:29

Oh, and thanks for the link to your blog Debra - interesting reading.

22/04/2013 at 00:41

Connemara ultra Co. Galway a couple of weeks ago was a deadful 7h50 (39 miles) but Llanelli marathon today in a much more pleasing 3h58.  Still lots of shoulder issues but I'm getting round these courses as best I can.  Next ultra Endurancelife Flete, Devon, with an interesting estuary crossing which may or may not be at low tide!!


22/04/2013 at 12:52

no go for NDW , just can't make the logistics work. Definitely need more northerly 100-milers that don't need a support crew and let you work with drop bags etc ... think I might plan some weekends to take on the Cape Wrath trail instead, there is the Cotswold Way 100 later in year but not sure how well set-up that is ... anyone know anything about it???

22/04/2013 at 12:53

So is the shoulder improving at all TRex?

22/04/2013 at 13:31

CC - Lakeland?! Entries full for this year but its Northern, 14 aid statiosn, no crew allowed, 1 drop bag at 60 miles. Great race.

22/04/2013 at 14:24

yes WIB - definitely Lakeland next year, there are a few ideas for longer Scottish ones rumbling around at the moment too so perhaps 2014 will be the year the 100+-milers go viral!!

22/04/2013 at 14:43

Good stuff. You will love it

I will run WHW at some point. Would be interested in others up there as it looks to have some great running possibilities 

23/04/2013 at 17:38

cragchick - it's actually got worse in the last two weeks or so, I'm sorry to say. Been re-referred to a specialist.  Muscles controlling shoulder movement aren't working properly it seems because of nerve damage.

02/05/2013 at 00:26

Well, anyone run any ultras lately?  My next is Endurancelife Flete ultra, S Devon.


It's been confirmed I've got nerve damage somewhere between neck and shoulderblade. They think I must have had some sort of whiplash as well when I came off my bike. It could take up to two years to recover or might not ever.


Hope you're OK, WiB.

02/05/2013 at 07:45

Malvern Ultra for me tomorrow


02/05/2013 at 18:31

LNandB: replying after a week mostly away from internet access... glad you gound my blog interesting.

T Rex: sympathies for the shoulder problem. I know how annoying it was when mine wasn't working right after it had been dislocated and then immobilised for healing. Good luck for improved healing and function; nerves can take quite a while to heal, unfortunately.

cragchick: sorry you won't make it down here for NDW100.

spen: good luck at Malvern - enjoy!

09/05/2013 at 16:17

After what must be at least a year, I'm back lurking, and looking longterm to aim for an ultra again

I had a bit of an injury setback last year, and did enough to get me through the Paras'10 Challenge, but not a great deal more. This year I vowed to come back and build back up to finally take on the Sheffield Half Marathon, and see where to go from there, all the while, i've been trying to train in ways that can benefit ultras (going out for a friends birthday meal and running home with a stomach full of salmon and beer, making the misses run 7 miles cross country to get a sunday carvery and run straight back)

I ended up agreeing to do the 100km TrailTrekkers walk in June, so i figured that would make interesting training towards sleep deprevation (I also did a few all nighters/36hour shifts at work at the end of last year, and cycled home afterwards)

So i got to thinking about whether i'd follow a friends footsteps and go for a marathon next (the misses is now much more into running, so she'd probably train and do this with me) but i still don't think i can bring myself to do it, so I'm thinking maybe the 20 mile loop of the Ladybower 50 this year, as a bridge to the White Peak Trail Marathon next year, as a bridge to the 35 mile loop of the Ladybower 50 as my first ultra.

Ladybower is a common training ground for me for hiking, running and tabbing for the paras10, so with it being practically on my doorstep i'm hoping that would remove a layer of stress, and let me concentrate on the run at hand, and with the laps being fairly reasonable, I imagine the logistics of getting to the drop bag to restock on supplies each lap should be fairly straightforward, also removing another challenge early on

My missus just wants to do the 20 mile route ourselves, on a typical free weekend for us, but I would like to do it as part of the event i think to get a feel for how it would all work out the following year, a practice run essentially.

So, hi, again, and hopefully i'll be around here more consistently this year as I should be able to get out for some good long peak district running this year


09/05/2013 at 16:54

Welcome back Ben! Good luck with your plans for the year. 

10/05/2013 at 11:26

Thanks Alistair, sounds like you may frequent some similar training locations in the peaks that i do, so maybe we'll bump into each other at some point

10/05/2013 at 12:10

Ben, just give me a shout if you fancy a trot out, always great to have some company. I am guilty of running the same routes over and over be good to explore some more.

11/05/2013 at 14:06

was moving house and no internet ....did i miss anyfink?

11/05/2013 at 15:21

Not sure as have only been skimming ... although WIB has gone missing in action I think!


11/05/2013 at 15:29

i think WiB is ok, ive heard from him, hes alive, just working hard i hope

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