wannabe ultra runner?

share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........

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22/05/2014 at 13:03
My schedule seems to go race, recover, taper, race, recover, taper! Occasionally I get an extra week between the recovery and taper to do some sort of training!
22/05/2014 at 13:37

Despite most of my runs having hills, Since SDW I have started to include specific hill sessions most weeks. Either long shallow gradients of a mile or 2 at a faster pace, or steep shorter ones of 1/4 mile ish at a slower pace with multiple repeats. Thes hills are worked both up AND down. down isnt for recovery, its for working your extended quads so they dont fall apart on race day  You can recover on a flat before going back up and down the hill.

I cant remember who told me to do that, but its slowly working! I even managed the long hill down into alfriston from Jevington (2 miles?) the other week running fairly fast (for me) without my quads falling apart, then promptly turned round and ran all the way back up the 2 miles (very slowly compared to the down ) to jevington. This has now become my fave hill work route! It will be interesting to see if there is any noticable difference in the race on sunday.

Edited: 22/05/2014 at 13:38
27/05/2014 at 13:45

Did my 2nd ultra at the weekend - the Weald Challenge Ultra in East Sussex. It was the first running of this event and it was fabulous; a cracking, tough route with amazing views. It was organised by top ultra runner Stuart Mills and really was a "by runners, for runners" event. Really friendly with super checkpoints and for those not keen on nav, the whole course was fully marked (quite an undertaking). Definitely recommend others give it a try.

I was really pleased that I had improved massively from my first ultra last October. Pacing, nutrition, hydration and general fitness all ten times better, but still so much to learn and improve on! Now really looking forward to a big month of training in June, before Lakeland 50 at end of July.

27/05/2014 at 13:58

Well done LNandB !

A training run yesterday of 20 miles with 2,100ft of elevation. Still finding it difficult to run slower and walk when I'm not feeling too bad. Took on board some food during the walks which is a first,. The legs are feeling heavy today but not as bad as when I ran a similar route a couple of months ago so hopefully there have been some improvements

27/05/2014 at 14:16

LNandB I did that one too, was brilliant wasnt it! I would have said hi if I had known 

The route was great, with some pretty tough terrain and a lot of variation in it too 

Definately one for next year again, I reckon Stuart is on to a winner with that !

27/05/2014 at 14:19

Hi Cheesy, glad you had a good day out too. Such a great event - sold out in its first year and I can see it continuing to be extremely popular!

30/05/2014 at 12:04

Here's a question that'ds probably been asked a million times... What shoes do you all wear for part road/part trail long distance runs?

I've been looking at the Innov 8 Terrafly 227 as it's a bit of a hybrid shoe - the blurb:

Designed to stand up to the rigor of both road and off road running the terrafly™ 277's unique combination of inov-8's Dynamic Fascia Band™ technology and Terradapter™ heel unit encourages an increasingly efficient running technique over long distances. Choose this shoe for ultra running and developing your running technique over longer distances.

Has anyone used this shoe or know of it?

Also - has anyone used the injinji socks before?

It's difficult to know what kit is worth getting and what's not.

Thanks all

30/05/2014 at 12:10

Salomon Speedcross 3 for me on the very occasional real trail stuff, mostly i just stick with my road shoes, and hose them down afterwards.

Injinji socks..... I asked that in another thread and got a few responses saying yes they are worth it, some tried others and went back to them.  So i'm just going to order myself a pair this weekend, or see if I can find somewhere with them in stock.

30/05/2014 at 12:54

Thanks Bookie, I'm every marketers dream and generally believe what I'm told, so the injinji socks look good to me!

Just been paid, so I'll give them a bash too - lets see how we get on.

30/05/2014 at 13:05
My injinji socks have been retired to the only use if I'm out if smartwool socks pile, they are ok but smartwool are better! My drymax socks are in the injinji pile too!

Still working on shoes I'm liking the sketchers go run ultra but they need to improve their stability, they aren't good on very technical stuff!
30/05/2014 at 13:43

I like a thin sock so use cycling socks from Decathlon. They do the job at a fraction of the price.

Re shoes, I've just bought some Innov8 Roclite 315s. I need some with a good grip but also plenty of cushioning. However, they are quite a wide shoe and I'm finding little stones etc are getting in on a regular basis. Are there any tricks to prevent this from happening or is it a case of buying a different shoe ?

30/05/2014 at 13:44
Gaiters
30/05/2014 at 15:07

Here's another crazy question - this time regards navigating.  Is there a phone app that I can download a route onto that will be able to ell me where I'm going?

I've been studying maps, but if I dont know where I am in relation to the map, the map's not a lot of use.

I'm half hoping I'll be able to run with another compteitor that is familiar with the route or that can navigate....eeek!

30/05/2014 at 16:57

Not sure, but with relation to maps, there is an awesome OS app, that just gives you your OS Grid position, so it's great if you are using a map, and think you might have got lost... I did when i came back to my car cross country from Kinder Scout and i followed the wrong way up a little river it was misty so i being stupid and getting it wrong, as soon as the app showed me my grid reference i could compare that to the map and just checked it every 10 minutes until i got back on track.

30/05/2014 at 17:09

Bookie that sounds perfect! I dont want to be some useless liability out there so if there's a means by which I can help myself simply then I'm all for it  Thank you

31/05/2014 at 08:20

LFR - I think I've got the same app as BT. I've got UK Map app on my phone which is basically the Ordnance Survey map. It cost about £7 but it's really good and shows pretty much everything you get on a real map. You can use this offline as well although you wont be able to find your currently location unless you are online of course. 

31/05/2014 at 16:37

touie, after getting a shed load of sand and bits down the back of my salomons at NDW50 other weekend ive been looking at gaiters too !!

31/05/2014 at 18:08
Yes I have the inov8 ones they are good! I didn't get any sand in my shoes in NDW ????
31/05/2014 at 19:56
ladyfunrun wrote (see)

I've been looking at the Innov 8 Terrafly 227

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Has anyone used this shoe or know of it?

I've got the goretex version of these for my daily walking about shoe and I think they are great. There isn't much cushioning in them and they generally feel a bit minimal but are really comfy and I would imagine great for running in. As a crossover trail/road shoe I'm not convinced though, maybe ok for very light trail but in those circumstances road shoes are probably just as good.

For gaiters, the ultramarathon running store sell dirty girl gaiters in a load of different patterns. They don't stop the very fine stuff getting in as running shoes are generally quite holey, but they do reduce it significantly and obviously stop stones and the like finding their way in.

01/06/2014 at 12:09

Thanks Shawk - good feedback. 

So I've managed a total of 17 miles this week post Edinburgh marathon. Trying to run on trails as much as possible and I tell you, it's hard work! 

I've been 'practising' walking up hills and if you're already out of puff, trying to keep a brisk walking pace is a lot if effort! I'm goosed this week and with only 3 weeks to the 50, I'm getting a bit concerned that I might have bitten off more than I can chew. 

 

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