share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........
You definetely should train. Absolutely, I highly recommend it, I found trainng invaluable
LE - Can't you see there is a domestic going on?
Yes, train. Train hard. A 50 doesn't require much more than marathon training. Top up on the long runs a bit, train consistently and dont neglect quality in favour of banging out pointless miles. Practice eating on the run and carrying kit.
GKD telling folk to be diplomatic and extolling the virtues of training! Can someone let Gary know his computer's been hijacked.
Tom you know me, my online persona IS me being diplomatic
You have to train? no one told me this.
Ha ha, the scary thing is that's really true.
I am looking at doing ultras . LDWA events are meant to be a good build up. I am going to do That's Lyth in jan At Kendal 25 miles over fells
Training always sounds like a good idea. But it's so easy to be distracted by facebook and cake.
(Seriously, LDWA events are superb. Nice people. Eccentric as fuck, and you'll have the demoralising experience of being overtaken by old men in sensible trousers. But recommended.)
GKD - Nice one, That was as good a joke as the Rugby club you support.
WiB, Peronel, thank you for some sensible advice.
Ah a man with a sense of humour. Welcome.
You know that old saying ' if you ask a stupid question......' well there you go.
Balls everyone talks crap
Newbie question here, when running 50 miles and above do most people go out quick and then 'hold on' to whatever pace they can towards the end or pace themselves steadily from the start?
I am looking at getting into Ultras and have run reasonable pace for marathons 3:15 ish but recently paced a friend to a 4:17 marathon finish and struggled towards the end.
I seem to find running slowly quite painful especially on my hips and knees, I know the obvious answer is "run quicker then"!!! but that won't help over 50 miles if I run 3:15 for the first half and then can't complete the distance..
I know I'm opening myself up to "stupid newbie quesion" responses but just thought I would ask if anyone had any advice
LE: Welcome. Good luck with Snowdonia. As WiB said, practice eating on the run and carrying the kit. Oh, and don't assume Thames Trot will be navigation-free - it wasn't this year!posty: Sounds good. Enjoy.Matt: Maybe alternating running at a pace you find comfortable with fast walking would work for you? I've seen people using e.g. run 10, walk one, or run 25, walk five. Seems to work reasonably well - I've spent much of more than one race "leapfrogging" with people using those strategies.
How long ago was the 3.15 marathon Matt? Have a google for Stuart Mills's blog, he's a proponent of the go out hard and hold on style of running and he's quite technical in his approach. But then again he's a very experienced runner who's always at the sharp end. There's very little point in doing a sub 35 first 10k if the next 40 takes six hours
Matt, the terrain will take care of a lot of it for you. Unless your experience is of trail running or hilly road marathons, on the typical ultra you'll come across hills where you'll have to drop your pace. Indeed, you may find it more efficient to walk, either because of steepness or because the going is gnarly.
So tip one: learn to hike.
My second though is that mileage is one issue, but time on your feet is another. Is it possible that some of the aches weren't pace related, but simply that you were up and mobile longer than you were used to.
Tip two: train to keep going all day. That in itself will answer your pace question.
Next, you're going to have to learn to eat on the move. Cheese sandwich then run at 3.15 pace?
I have no words......
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