share your ambitions/goals/training here on a 'newbie ultra' thread........
Ultimate running food mini battenburg heaven!!!
I am partial to angel slices for my drop bag.
Let me introduce myself ...
I've been running for three years - going from a 39 minute Parkrun (now 22:17) to my sixth marathon next weekend, and Outlaw triathlon this summer.
After three punctures at Outlaw I had an entry for 2014 to use puncture-proof tyres and gain a more respectable time ... but after a rather tragic loss last month I've re-assessed my priorities, realise that all I want to do is run, so I have withdrawn from Outlaw to focus on three projects -
1. sub 4.00 at VLM (PB is 4:16)
2. London to Brighton Challenge
3. 100 Marathon club (eventually, perhaps)
I need to work out a training plan to build up the mileage for L2B and build up the speed for VLM, somehow, and then concentrate on good recovering to trot out whatever maras I can manage after that.
I am interested to learn about speed and ultra training, as well as food - I realise that gels won't cut it at this distance, so will need to find out what else I can eat - thinking of peanut butter bagels?
I also need to work out how to train for trail running when I live in a city!
All advice / support gratefully received!
In terms of food, my (rather dull) suggestion is to try it out in training, if it works use it, if not, ditch it. Ultra running is so personal, some do nothing but slow stuff, some do low miles high speed, some cross train, some stretch and massage, I could go on. I don't think there's a one size fits all approach. Soak up as much info as you can, see what appeals and give it a go. I think if you genuinely love running, then you can do whatever makes you happy and gives you confidence in training, and you'll be okay. Also the bigger the ego the worse the ultra-runner, so trust what the modest folk say, they've probably been there and got the buckle, and have nothing to prove.
Sorry about your loss (me too) and running can help. Good luck.
Angel slices with marmalade!
Battenburg with marmite on one end and peanut butter on the other end.
Britrisky: Which city? Take London for example, there are actually quite a lot of off-road trails to run on - not the same as proper trail running out in the country, but between the Green Chain Walk, London Loop, Capital Ring, canal paths etc. you can find quite a bit - and the further you up the mileage, the further out you can get in your long run. Most cities you'll get out into green belt and be running across fields before you know it. I got an OS map made centred on a spot not far from our running club and there are loads of footpaths and brideways I'll be trying out as soon as I'm running again (injured in a cycling accident ). Very worth getting an oS map and having a look at it (I got one made because where I live is really near the corner of three or four maps).
Agree with what Tiago said about food - try it in training. And sympathies for your loss.
I'm in Hull, Debra - and I have an OS map, so I'll have a good look at this over Christmas. Doing Portsmouth mara at the weekend, and then the planning / training starts!
loulabell I have been lurking but haven't been running too much over the summer. Kicked off winter training with a marathon last month. Slow but as nothing longer than 16 miles since May I was pleased! Needed it otherwise will get to next years races woefully underprepared!Oh and less of the marmite chatter please!
Finally got a waterproof jacket sorted. Spent Months umming and arrghing over the OMM or Montane decision and then got a Haglofs (lim ii q) as I could actually find it localish and try it on, Oh and it was 40% of in the sales Very lightweight and wore it for a 8 mile test run in heavy rain last night. Works a treat.
Cannot imagine what conditions are going to be like for those doing the Spine and the Spine Challenger starting Saturday. Wet feet after minutes, and they might not dry out for a week. shudder!
I've also learnt that in really wet conditions, normal trainers are awful on muddy grass, I think those conditions more then any other would possibly prod me in the direction of getting a pair of trail trainers, as opposed to my normal road ones.
could I ask for some advice for us very inexperienced or newbies,
Best way to learn or improve your map skills?
i'm thinking get a map, get a compass (with a 1:25000 scale) and get your arse outside long walks good practise as well being on your feet for a long period of time
is there any definitive book that we should all be buying and reading?
or should we be saving our pennies for a days course with anyone?
Also I guess if running at night need to practise at night?
Sorry lots of questions
It is not actually difficult to learn to read a map. Just buy a map and compass, and go out and play around with them. You live in Leicestershire, so I can give you a tutorial if you need it.
Many elite ultra runners use long walks of eight hours or so as part of their training.
There are many books that an ultra runner should own, but I don’t think that there is one that stands out as being exceptionally useful. One day I might get a bunch of contributors together, and write such a book.
Practice running in the dark can be invaluable. At this time of year, it doesn’t even have to be particularly late.
booktrunk: orienteering is a good way to practice using a map and compass and actually reading the features on the map. I also went on a one-day course after one of the Lakeland 50 recces and found that useful as well.
As for running at night, yes, useful to practice. For navigating, I'd practice in the daytime first!
Hey all - another wannabe ultra runner here. Doing VLM in April and was hoping to maybe use that training to go a little further and maybe enter an Ultra in May / early June. Lets just say personal circumstances mean that if I don't do it by then, I'll probably never end up doing an Ultra so I'm determined to do it. Was hoping for something around the 50k mark (up to 35 miles max) and ideally not too hilly. I've had a look around myself and the ones I've found (within a 3 hour drive from Cardiff) are "The Pony Express Ultra" in Hampshire (30 miles if doing 1 day), "The Dukeries Ultra" in Nottingham (30 miles).
Ideally, it'd need to be paths rather than completely off road as most of my training with be done on the road / cycle paths. I appriciate I'm asking a lot and almost "where can I find an easy Ultra" which clearly doesn't exist. Any other suggestions would be greatly appriciated.
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