wannabe ultra runner?

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29/07/2015 at 18:27

planing to hit 50K for my first Ultra in February. Any advice?

29/07/2015 at 23:57

SP13 - interesting - that's quite a long way for a first one.  I wouldn't do too many very long runs in the build up. I'd make your last one no more than 30-32 miles three weeks before and taper drastically.  Hope it leads you to entering some ultra events. You cannot beat the camaraderie at these and of course being able to have an ultra on your race cv.

What race is that, 00D?

30/07/2015 at 07:29

T Rex, I have a DNF from a few years ago on an official 50km ultra that has been haunting me. I wanted to run this on my own to prove that I can. I originally said that I would only run one marathon and here I am 11 marathons later. Who knows - maybe the same will happen with ultras! 

Wouldn't you advise too many very long runs? Does my plan seem too much?  

30/07/2015 at 08:06

It's a 50k around a local forest in February, TRex - almost four months after my next marathon, so instead of my usual post-marathon lol on the couch for a month, I want to keep up my trainig for it. Just not sure what's the best plan?

30/07/2015 at 09:45

Entered for my first Ultra next April - Vale Coastal Ultra 32 miler so roughly 50K. Probably qualifies as reasonably flat in the Ultra world although there are a couple of inclines towards the end. Seems quite beginner friendly with a very generous time limit.

Training for Snowdon marathon in October so like DoubleOhDave it'll probably be a case of keeping the mileage up for the 5 months in between. Looked at a couple of training plans which seem a little bit scary. My aim (as I'm sure it is for 99.9% of first time Ultra runners) is to just get round.

30/07/2015 at 23:19

Welcome to all the new guys. For a 50k ultra, a marathon programme, with slightly longer LSR's will be fine, concentrating on getting used to taking walk breaks, and eating on the move.A lot of the trainig programmes I've looked at seem crazy- I never go much over 35 miles per week, and I've done quite a few 32- 42 milers, plus 3 runs of over 50 miles. OK, so I'm a back of packer, but I've only DNF'd once, and that was due to ridiculously hot weather on the day.

Remember to take at least 1-2 weeks recovery time of low mileage before carrying on through to the ultra trainig, if you've raced the marathon- different if you've just used it as a "time on feet" very long slow run, where you don't need to recover specifically.

31/07/2015 at 10:23
tricialitt wrote (see)

Welcome to all the new guys. .

Remember to take at least 1-2 weeks recovery time of low mileage before carrying on through to the ultra trainig, if you've raced the marathon- different if you've just used it as a "time on feet" very long slow run, where you don't need to recover specifically.

Thanks Tricia, and I will be racing the marathon (against myself obviously) so will make sure I put the low mileage in. I have crewed at Ultra events and have seen the amount of walking breaks there are, so it's a good point not to be foolish and make sure to add walks into the program - which actually makes it more fun I think. I hadn't thought of adding walk breaks into actual training but now I can see how that would work. I could run to the next village, walk a bit towards the next one, then run and so on and so forth and take in a few villages in a day - that would be exciting!

31/07/2015 at 10:37

I have been training the 5:1 run/walk ratio on my long runs and it took me a while to get used to the stop/go. The first time I tried it, my legs cramped so much I thought they were going to fall off. But practise has helped and on my 42km run last Sunday it went fine. I use the walk breaks to hydrate and have been practising eating musli bars then too.

I was surprised that even with my walk breaks I have an average pace of 6:30 per km, not fast by most people's standards I am sure but I was very pleasantly surprised.

31/07/2015 at 10:51

Sounds great SP13, so how often do you do 42km runs?

31/07/2015 at 10:56

I ran 42 last weekend for the first time in this training (have completed 11 marathons up to last year) and will be running 42 again on Sunday. Then I have a week with low km followed by 2 weekends with 45 km before tapering.

31/07/2015 at 13:38

Tempted to sign up for a marathon to do one of my 42K training runs. Can't imagine doing that sort of distance and it not officially counting towards how many marathons I've done. I am a bit event / race obsessed though. Would have to make sure I didn't get carried away and just plod round.

31/07/2015 at 13:43

I was worried about running the distance on my own too - my other runs of that distance have been marathons in large cities. But actually I have to say that I really enjoyed it. The pace was slow and there was no-one to compete against. Just me and an awful lot of trees. I was (almost) moved by the whole thing. There is time to think and to let the world go.

31/07/2015 at 16:29

Find a trail marathon , if you can, or pace a slow beginner round, then you'll get a good "time on feet" run. I've done 3 marathons this year, and they've all been hilly, run slow with a backpack on, aiming for about 30 mins slower than "raced" marathon time.

It's quite sociable with the ultra guys at the back!

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