Spring Shoe Guide 2009

Why do we need stability,cushioning etc inshoes when nature provides use with arches to absorb the shock from impact.Muscles to provide stability.
Posted: 06/02/2009 01:46

If we had remained barefoot from the day we were born then we probably wouldn't.

Putting a support (or cushioning) on our bodies reduces the need for our body parts to do that so they become relatively wasted and weaker over time.

That's the position we have now got ourselves into so we have to live with it.

Or not.

Some runners have decided to try and reverse the process by going back to 'barefoot', very minimalist shoes and running landing on the forefoot/midfoot as nature intended.

Just how necessary / wise / safe / how long this process should take, is a matter of much debate.

Posted: 06/02/2009 07:53

I naturally run on my tippy toes (I can't help it) like barefoot running and have just invested in a pair of Newton Gravities which encourage forefoot/midfoot running.  I feel like a new person - I don't know how I have managed all these years without them.  I was told that I would need a 'settling in' period to get used to them.  On the contrary, I took to them like a duck to water, and they are going to change my life.  It is like running in my bare feet, or dare I say it, with my slippers on (if I wore them).  I am going to invest in another pair and will definitely not be going back to my old Sauconys. 
Posted: 06/02/2009 08:28

What distances would say, Newton Gravities running shoes be suitable for?

How much do they cost?  How many miles are they good for? 

I find that only really fit runners can run forefoot/midfoot striking for long distances, i.e. more than a mile or so.  Are they short distance racing shoes?

Posted: 06/02/2009 11:02

i'm quite surprised by the editor's choice of running shoe. I bought a pair of those Asics Gel last year and they were the worst training shoes i've ever bought. My training partner bought a pair too on the strength of a review and shoe predictor on Runner's world and had nothing but problems. i personally never get blisters but did with those. i used to like Asics but can't get the right size now (i'm a british 9 or US 9 1/2) Asics 9 is really a US 10 ( too big) and the 8 is too small. New Balance are the most reliable shoes i've ever bought. There 35 - 45 pound  range are more than adequate and rarely need much breaking in. Don't wast your money on Asics Gel Kayano or whatever they're called. As for the running in barefoot thing Zola Budd used to do ok!  
Posted: 06/02/2009 11:44

"My training partner bought a pair too on the strength of a review and shoe predictor on Runner's world and had nothing but problems." I think the response from anyone with any base of running experience would be something like "well, what did he/she expect?". Regarding the general Asics point, the response from anyone with any base of running experience would go along the lines of "the fact that a model of shoe is bad for you has no bearing on what it will be like for someone else". Sorry to sound like an arse, but you don't really understand what you're talking about.
Posted: 06/02/2009 11:51

Cushioning and stability devices in shoes are destroying our abilities to run correctly Soft shoes allow you to come down hard on the heels. Try hard flat flexible shoes and you'll soon learn to run correctly.But don't over do it. Start slowly,give the feet and legs time to adapt. You'll have less probs with knees and hips and start to move quicker
Posted: 06/02/2009 12:53

Peter - I'd never buy any shoes just off a review and the predictor on a website. You have to try them in a proper shop or you're bound to have problems.
Posted: 06/02/2009 13:09

does the cushioning enable us to run longer and into older age, when we ran barefoot we were all dead at thirty, eaten by dinosaurs!!
Posted: 06/02/2009 15:11

Swerve you are an arse! - You've missed the point completely. People are influenced by reviews. in your world people shouldn't give good or bad ones. mine was a bad one by the way. when you pay over 80 quid for a training shoe you don't expect your foot to be cut to bits after a 6 miler. That's something you don't expect. That's something you really can't judge jogging around the shop either. people do expect better quality from a more expensive shoe. You sound like the kind of runner who spends more time at specialist running shops getting your gait measured etc than pounding the streets. i chose my shoes through trial and error as i did mention and as everyone should as everyone is different. to say you're stating the obvious is an understatement. 

Posted: 06/02/2009 23:16

its not right nice calling people names, all it does is show you to be a !!!!!
Posted: 06/02/2009 23:30

ha ha. i was only agreeing with him. or you in fact 
Posted: 07/02/2009 00:08

Darce. I've been running in hard shoes for as long as I can remember. I'am now 65 and still capable of 36mins for 10k. The point I'am trying to get across is that modern shoes are causing more troubles than they prevent Most injuries are caused by doing to much to soon. Don't get conned into spending millions of dollars on shoes with gimicks you don't need
Posted: 07/02/2009 10:26

Brian MacKenzie on Running Shoe Technology
Posted: 07/02/2009 10:42

Why dos'nt some one take a leaf out of TOP GEAR. Set up a course, get some good runners and test the shoes, lets get some idea of which shoes are fastest etc
Posted: 08/02/2009 13:08

Hey, I like the Top Gear idea... and maybe we can launch some old crusty shoes off cliffs and explode them and stuff like that! Let's get the pyrotechnics back into running!!

On a more sensible note, why does it have to be so difficult to get a good upgrade to an old faithful pair of runners? The new releases invariably fit slightly differently, and if you go wild and get a completely different shoe it always seems to take a good few k's before they feel ok... 

Posted: 08/02/2009 15:05

In response to Gerald

The Newton Gravities can do Marathon and ultra distances and I wear them for everyday running (circa 12-15 miles).  They cost approx £110 (but they are coming down in price) and you can buy them from triathlon shops and a few running shops.

I run on tip toes and have done all my life and most people take the mickey out of me... it is just how I run and I can't help it.  I would not class myself as 'super fit' or elite, but I can do the distances and this shoe really helps me.  I have suffered in the past from various things such as black toe, blisters on long runs and tendonitis.  However, the Newtons suit my style and touchwood... I am injury free.

 I am not sure if they are value for money if you are a heel striker, but if you do run midfoot, forefoot anyway then I cannot recommend them enough.

 Kind regards

 Carol

Posted: 08/02/2009 19:23

Has anybody tried these - Saucony ProGrid Triumph 6? I've had a few pair of Saucony and am looking into a new pair. Just thought I'd ask. The best people to ask are runners themselves I guess. I never trust reviews from the company - they always tell you what you want to hear. Runners, however, they'll tell it how it really is. By the way. Seen these shoes on Sportsshoes.com for £89.99p and at Birmingham Runner, they sell for £76.50p - a massive difference in price. Anyway, what are they like?
Posted: 12/02/2009 17:03

Hi Peanut Butter. I have been running in my Saucony's for about 7 month and they are now coming to the end of their life but they have really served well!!! I have used Asic in the past and I do not think there is that much difference b etween them. Problem is you do not go through enough shoes to build up a lot of experience in particular makes and models before they are upgraded......
Posted: 12/02/2009 18:37

Thanks darce, appreciate the response.  My old Saucony's have also treated me well.  I tend to stick with the same make of shoes, so I'll go and try a pair on this weekend at my local Up & Running store.  I'll let you know what I go for. Been getting sore shins these last few weeks, so hope they help.  I know it's time to buy a new pair though. Cheers! 
Posted: 13/02/2009 10:06

Hi Peanut Butter

When you decide which shoe to invest in try http://www.ransacker.co.uk ... they are brilliant and do the searching across a lot of the stores and get you the results and are absolutely impartial.  I recently needed advice on the Newtons and Ransacker helped put me in touch with a triathlete who was using them - it is a fantastic service.  You can then price match with Sport Shoes Com if they have got them in stock.

 Kind regards

 Carol

Posted: 13/02/2009 10:12

Hi Carol Dixon-Yeung 2, appreciate the advice. I'll have a look into that site. It sounds good. Thanks
Posted: 13/02/2009 14:43