Scott, i forget the exact rule, but ice only works for a day or 2 post a knock doesn't it?After that it has minimal effect.
Having said that I was still icing glute/hamstrings even when they were tight, which was probably completely pointless. And the NHS physio pointed out my lack of hamstring flexibility had got to extreme levels. However, one simple deep stretch meant i could suddenly touch the floor again.
It's funny, I know another local runner of a similar level who went from severe locked up "out for ages" to suddenly back smashing races a few weeks later, so what can feel the end of the world can sometimes turn very nicely.
This is why i see the value of a physio for every "new" type of niggle, as however long you've been running you won't have seen every injury to every part, and understand what strengths/weaknesses your muscles have and what is compensating. Yes you can apply general principles, but there's always that new area of complaint.
If your hamstring is tight, it could be the actual hamstring, it could be the lower back, it could be a nerve/sciatica issue, it could be resonating up the calf or it could be a right/left weakness putting too much strain on them.
Looking back over the years I can remember many times i put it down as a"tight" hamstring, even back to football days. Back then of course, I wasn't doing anywhere near the amount of training, so it always cleared without much worry.
And that's one area, and 4 or 5 separate causes. Not to mention that there are 6 or 7 stretches depending on the exact situation.
You can try and cover off every stretch for every area, but I get the feeling people on this thread barely stretch unless they have a certain niggle.
that sounds fairly dodgy Scott, sounds more an impact injury type thing rather than the overtraining super tightness type situation?
If you want to race those 2 for "fun"/a good workout, they might still be worthwhile, but i'm the first to understand you might not want to race if not feeling top end.
Time does fly so quickly though. Without having any thing too much more serious than massive tightness I've seen months fly by without any progress, in fact it's obviously been standing still/maintenance. However, am enjoying it quite a lot now, as there seems some point to it again, rather than 55/60mile weeks of one pace!
I'm trying not to compare too much against past sessions, as all are different times and emphases etc. I once did 5x1mile at 5.30 pace on the track, but that's a session along the lines of 8x1k, a peaking session. And have also done 1/2mile reps at 5k pace, but then that'd only be 5 of those, so i think it's ok!
What's your next set of races Scott? You sound a little like i was recently, doing good mileage, but not sure it's "raceable" with the niggles. A situation many don't understand, as they see it in black and white, or injured and fully fit, but I for certain know exactly what you're in the middle of.