John it was fun at the time and when one is young and fit it doesn't seem a problem. it's only later that the long term effects manifest themselves.................
When I ran fairly well I used to love hills, now they are just there. Of course my hills are bigger, badder and worse than anyone else's and I can take you to places where they really are. Hipps Hill is not in that category - its just that it bars my way home on most runs. It rises about 62m, - 200 ft in just under a mile.
Typical Garmin plot
my house is at the end of the green line!! There is actually a dip down after that first little rise that takes one almost back to the start of the climb before going back up but it is in a beautiful parkland setting so one can be distracted a bit
I remember running up the cliffs at Bournemouth and over the Iron Age fort ramparts at Hambledon Hill in Dorset to know that they exist elsewhere - even in the soft south
Alf Tupper (TTOTT) was indeed a northern lad - I emulate his passion for fish & chips
No run this morning but I will attempt the Hash from a local hostelry this evening which has a very large range of guest ales....................
Columba I would have expected a walk like that to aggravate the knee just as much as running on roads so maybe there is a small tear or suchlike in the meniscus or a bit of stuff floating around in the joint that needs cleaning out. Hopefully the x ray will reveal all. I would b every cautious about cortisone injections - the relief is only temporary and they accelerate deterioration of the joint.
The wimps way on Hipps Hill is about 1/3 of the way up where I can veer off to the right and run on a lower slope to get home without having to go right up to the top!!
MIck it may have been the heat but it didn't really feel like that - just general CBA which is unlike me!! I had done 4 days of good running before my break travelling with no ill effects and I expected tocome back refreshed and ready - that's how much I know!! Good list of chores done - you deserve the feet up and a cool one
John longevity can also be due to not having had serious injuries previously. At times I can feel by old broken ankle and torn ligaments, torn knee ligaments and severe hamstring tear, all from other contact sports, almost as badly as if I had just done them! Running injuries have all been of the type that stops one running rather than stops one moving
Ceal These ladies on trains drinking in the early morning Sounds like a very good time indeed .
Nasty fall by Julian - there were quite a few in the TdeF as well but at least there they only got run over by cyclists!!
Easy 3 miles this morning - bit cooler and with a breeze so conditions good but still felt listless. It may be the hay fever and the tablets taken to ward off the effects of the massive pollen levels just now but I would normally run through that
I had very similar symptoms - however they were allied to extraordinary lower back spasm/pain which would literally paralyse me until I learned that I had to push through it in order to reduce the symptoms marginally. Extensive physio and exercises did nothing to reduce the frequency of occurrence or the pain.
Ultimately after an X ray and MRI scan it was discovered that I had severely herniated discs at L4 & L5 which were pressing into the neural system and causing both the back pain and the radicular pain down my leg and foot. Surgery was the only real option for a potential cure and I underwent a micro -discectomy 2 years ago to reduce the herniation and form a groove for the neural system. Careful and prolonged recuperation and exercise after for 3 months building up by walking up to 10 miles a day and then slowing introducing very short running bits.- 1min run/9 min walks and then progressed from there until it was 9 min run/1min walk after another 3 months. Good enough to run 22:10 for a 5K which wasn't too bad for a 69 year old. Just when I though it was over it the neural pain in the leg flared up again
Further MRI indicated that the surgery had been a success and that it was thought to be residual neural memory reacting in the old way rather than in a normal fashion but it was impossible to shift with conventional physio and exercises. In desperation I started to try and re train the nerves by introducing short sprints into my walking on the principle that sprinting recruits all the muscles in the right order and the neural pathway has to respond and very slowly the pain has largely disappeared over 9 months!! My consultant has been most impressed with the process which he describes as unique!!
Not sure if this gives you both any renewed hope or a way forward but there is a possible treatment. Hopefully a MRI will reveal the extent of the problem and a way forward.
One final point - if at any stage you start to have problems with bladder and bowel control see your doctor immediately - it can be a potential serious condition that needs immediate attention. That should have been drawn to your attention already but sometimes things get missed.....................
Columba ouch to your swollen knee - when is the x-ray appointment?
WD60 hot everywhere just now but it has broken here with some rain
John good gallop at the Parkrun. Beware of that achilles though - if it is inflamed it does not go away and will flare up again.
Ceal warm enough for you??
MIck it's called Sods Law When you laid your motor bike up for the winter did you drain all fuel out of it? I have heard from a couple of friends who are summer riders that they have had problems because of old fuel in the tank and its ethanol content which absorbs moisture making it misfire and eventually stop. only solution was a complete flush out and new petrol.
I have been struggling now all a week just trying to run, no energy at all, not helped by a near forgotten back spasm on Wednesday which was a painful reminder of how things used to be so I have taken it very easy only doing a couple of miles at near walking pace!
Managed 4.25 miles this morning - slightly better in 40 min (9:25m/m) with av HR 132 and a max of 145 as I cheated on the Rambo Hipps Hills and went up the wimps way.
Felt very guilty passing the 1,000's of runners getting ready for the Great Yorkshire 10K in town this morning so I went and cheered them on a little later as they tackled the tough course just as it warmed up and almost ran past my house at the 5K mark. Surprisingly the very big field looked to be mainly in pretty good order with only a few walkers at that stage although I did not have the heart to tell them that there was another mile of climb before the downhill started.......................
if travelling stresses you out you should try what I went through last week - Wednesday - Cheltenham, Thursday/Friday - Cardiff, Saturday- Ludlow then home.
It was actually very pleasant, apart from the work in Cardiff, and even that wasn't too bad as I took possession of the new office block overlooking the castle for my client. Mrs TS exercised her credit card in Cardiff's excellent shopping streets and arcades and I may just have come out of the trip in credit. Photos below of the new office block taken from Cardiff Castle ramparts and the rather older hotel in Ludlow - which is a lovely place to visit
Lots of good meals and no running!!
It was also graduation week at Cradiff Uni - seeing all the 1,000s on the streets makes one realise how much an industry higher education is!
Welshpoppy sounded like a good break - and good mileage! I drove over the Beacons and through Brecon on my way to Ludlow - a rather circuitous, but very scenic route from Cardiff
Columba It sounds as if your knee is settling down a bit - hope so!!
MIck Your weather has arrived here!! Hot and humid
NZC keep your eyes off that 10K
Ceal managing to keep busy I see I suspect that was an expensive glass of champagne overall!!
After my travels I decided I needed a long run yesterday to burn off some excesses of not so healthy living. I managed nearly 3 mins before my body and mind in unison said stop - so I did. I can count on one hand the number of times over the years I have abandoned a run after starting out but this was one of them - just completely drained and lacking in any energy. So I walked a couple of miles came back and cut the lawns!!
Not much better this morning but did manage o couple of miles of gentle pace in hot, humid conditions