roy silver - you doing the long course? I'll be running it again this year. I remember last year's outing being a very arduous event, but most of it was in wonderful sunny conditions. It got bad after dark - setting off from the Storey Arms at 2230 in appalling conditions to do Corn Du, Pen y Fan, Cribyn, Fan y Big and Waun Rydd finally arriving at the finish about 0300 was one of the edgiest things I've ever done.
Superb event, this year starting at 0500 instead of 0400.
I can probably fill you in with any details. I recommend doing recces if you can. Although the map is useful there are often no paths, or the paths are hard to find, and you need to be good at nav.
Hi. I'm still around, although not really running at the moment. Usually every year work dictates that I have to have a lull period from running from about the third week of May until sometime in July. This year has been frantic and the workload looks to continue almost to the end of this month. I've been going out with the dog on a few hilly runs but no proper training as such.
Got 8 marathons to fit in between now and SNOD and another one looks like being a casualty. Eldest son has entered Race the Train and challenged me to come along and run with him and his mates. Didn't take long to decide to accept but it makes it tricky doing a planned marathon next day especially since he also wants me to climb Tryfan with him that day by 'a difficult route'. Since he's quite a decent rock climber I'm not sure what he has in mind.
He's off to the States to live later this year and since this could be the last chance for a long while to do anything like this with him I'm off to Tywyn on 16 Aug.
Good to see some new faces on the thread (as well as the old ones!)
SideBurn - it's a kind of extreme muscle fatigue from excessive use which seems to affect some people in long ultras. Creatine-Kinase (CK) levels (essentially a measure of dead muscle tissue in the blood) probably get raised in most people who run marathons and longer with no obvious ill-effects.
In serious cases muscle damage is so severe the pain becomes extreme, rather like deep-seated cramp which cannot be relieved by either massage or stretching out. You also start losing motor control in the affected limb(s) until you become completely immobile. These are the obvious symptoms. If you notice your wee colour and it is like black tea or coke that's another clear indication you need to get to A&E urgently and go on a drip.
Good, well-prepared runners can get it. Novices can get it. A lot depends on how conditioned you are and (I think) how tired you are before you start running. Not sure how to prevent it. I'd like to know myself. I like to think I am in the well-prepared category but this has caught me out. I've decided no more 100-milers for me and will stick to a maximum of about 50 miles over which distance I have had no symptoms.
I would believe the pain. Sounds like you tried to carry on way beyond the point a normal person would stop! I did the same for 20 miles until 2 miles from finishing an 85-mile race I had to stop. I had no option - the right leg had become as if paralysed. I got to the point where I was using my hands to lift under my hamstrings and manually moving the leg for 10 steps at a time and then having a 5-minute break, before doing another 10 'steps'. Eventually even this became too painful and I had to call to be rescued.
Yes, the liver can start to struggle and the heart as well. You had a bad bout of it.
It's not blood in your urine, but an enzyme myoglobin which can crystallize in the tubes in the kidneys and cause renal failure. You need to check there is no myoglobin left in your urine and that your CK level has come back down to a more normal level. The normal upper limit for an adult male is 170-190.
Compartment syndrome comes on rapidly so I think you're OK there. The muscles become extremely swollen and tight and the only solution is to slit the muscle sheaf longitudinally to relieve the pressure. The wound is left open.