Now I've seen the results, I was a minute and half down on PP on my relay leg and not even in the top half of the individual results, so maybe not too distinguished. We are entering a team in the nationals but I'd rather be subbed by someone faster if they're available -- as my legs were totally wrecked today!
Three nights in a Travelodge also left me with a really stiff back (lack of sensible chairs for this old man), so I shuffled gruesomely slowly this morning until that loosened up somewhat, but my legs were too trashed to run properly anyway. 6M at no less than 10:14/M average! OK maybe it was a stretch doing a total of 24 with the race in yesterday, but I wouldn't want DOMS like that affecting my key Sunday run 2 weeks out from VLM, hence my lack of desire to do the national relays. (Am I being silly? Is it a prestigious chance one shouldn't pass up?)
SL -- excellent, I'm loving these training marathons.
CL -- I definitely avoid eating anything for a good 3 hrs before running. It's particularly running hard, especially races, which gets me. I haven't had it much recently but in the past had many hours of dull abdominal pain after some races. (Not the same as the unstoppable No 2 urge "stomach issues" SJ, if that's what you're suffering! Those are just normal of course...)
selbs -- ah, The Hub toilet in Regents Park I've appreciated several times when running from friends' place. My emergency shorts kit includes loo paper... Anyway, very encouraging long run!
My relay leg started with a cloudburst about 1 min in which left my new lightweight shoes full of water (but I was encouraged by the Hyperspeeds today, might use them for VLM after all). And the wind was ridiculous. I think I acquitted myself OK, anyway. Jogging from the Travelodge and warming up (including getting within about 2 metres of PP on the final bend, gave you a big shout in defiance of club loyalty but failed to find you later, sorry), and 15M trudge afterwards got me to 24M for the day, so marathon training wasn't really compromised.
Nice LR SJ and love the treadmill marathon, Al! AlanB -- sounds like you're aiming sub-2:40 too? And good long efforts several others too.
CD -- terrible wind for biking, nice one.
CL -- that's a great HM time in the ridiculous wind. I've had nasty abdominal cramps in the past after more intense races, but never did figure out why. Maybe ischaemia (sp?), i.e. guts deprived of blood when running hard.
CL/PP -- I'm amazed how different runners can be successful at quite different weights, so long as they're skinny. PP runs rings round me but I'm only about 56 kg (at 5'7", to mix my units). You'd have thought that extra lean muscle bulk, at least up top, would only be a hindrance to running, but to some extent it doesn't seem to matter.
Ryan -- oh no, another one, sorry. And likewise for your compromised effort JH1, though it must be good to know what it is and that it can be fixed.
JAP -- got any photos of your impromptu mudpack?
Big weekend of training for you Jools, very nice.
Padams -- hope the chest infection clears quickly. Given the downpours and gusts to 45 mph, the relays may have been particularly bad for it! So I'm holed up in a Travelodge with the family for the weekend, poised to do my relay leg this afternoon and then top it up to make a long run while my clan wisely shelter in a cinema. I rested yesterday and rode home instead of doubling on Fri (as my legs were really creaky in the morning), not wanting to let the team down today -- though actually my legs were fine even yesterday so I regret finishing last week on only 66 miles by not running the 6M home. Ah well.
Al_P -- nice to see a full-distance comrade in action, hope your knee thing disappears again sharpish.
JB -- argh, the toaster gods work in mysterious ways, good luck!
SB -- yeah, I do long runs every week as a matter of course in marathon build-up, but I typically have 2 or 3 rest days (well just cycle-commuting) too. I'm a firm believer in adapting to the long runs being key.
PP -- thanks for the Red Lion research (and maybe see you in Milton Keynes). ES -- I've not done a rainy VLM yet, so in my experience we always end up spilling around on the pavement outside. Getting served can be slow though.
My 6M commute in this morning was a creaky plod (8:20/M or something) despite only having a light rucksack again (CL -- I'm fine with 2kg, but anything more than 3kg and it starts to feel ridiculous quite quickly). Maybe because I did do another 10M on the way home last night to make it 20M for the day. So I've returned home (half day off) on my old 'emergency' bike to be a bit fresher for the relay leg on Sunday. Which I will either extend into a long run, or do one on Monday.
SJ -- being Garmin-free doesn't necessarily exclude obsession. As a student I had some very carefully measured laps (using a bike computer) so I could train on known distances, so it was rather liberating having GPS later which meant I could run any old where and still have a pretty good idea of what I'd done (usually with a couple of percent, anyway).
PP -- you'd have a big appreciative crowd on Red, so I hope you get it.
SL -- big doubles. I'm still secretly relieved when you get smoked legs, makes me feel more human.
SB -- I've done 20+ on nearly every weekend since Christmas, just a couple missed due to races. And 5 full or overdistance runs included in that. Not many left now though! I'll do my last 20+ two weeks out.
MLR was a bit short today due to lack of time, total 10.2M @ 6:40/M avg, with 1x1k and 3x1M approx efforts (avg 5:50/M or so) and 4M of tempo which only averaged 6:43 -- but the latter half was into a nasty wind. Light rucksack, maybe 1.5kg. First outing for the Asics Hyperspeed 6s, which were OK, but maybe a little harsher on the ball of my foot than the cushy Lunaracers. Shame as they're lighter, so I would be tempted otherwise to use them for VLM. If I get away from work not too late I might yet make it to 20M for the day, but probably a little less.