Mighty impressive Dan. Will attempt a good MP for my last 20 miler next weekend But nowhere near that!
DT...off to the Wales v Scotland match next weekend. Have had the result rubbed in enough already! And now next weekends match is for nothing much but pride....but at least no wooden spoon! As for hockey, it's a slippery slope downhill after a certain age unless you have a good hockey brain. If you can't turn and accelerate quickly then you are not even left chasing shadows, just their wheel dust! Years ago I was half decent but guess some of it is the equivalent of trying to take on sub 16 5k runners, and failing miserably! I do think some of the players I play against, including one or two former team mates would be very good runners of that calibre and I've tried to encourage them but to no avail! I've decided its my last season after getting my head round it finally!
Btw, FWIW, a 6:27 first mile at the previous weekends half may also have set me back a bit too!
Salisbury 10 for me yesterday. Only ran this 4 years or so ago (in about 70:3x) and clocked 67:28 to make this a brain storming 1 second PB! However, at the Llanelli half last year, I passed 10 mile in 65:XX so as with and also following last weeks half (still in the legs and not likely to be net downhill), am not the sharpest at the moment (hence taking note of DTs similar current race experiences and taking reassurance from this). However, there are two short, sharp climbs at 6 and 7 miles roughly and having also ran 20 on Friday, it was never going to be an A or B race! Also found it far too hot for my liking (can't run with anything more than shorts and vest at near freezing temps!)...amazing how quickly the weather can change at this time of year. Was sweating buckets within the first mile and groaned about the temperature to which someone nearby was in total agreement with. A lot also appeared to be a minute or two down on their PBs, even on times for this race from last year on looking at last years times. Was happy to enter this race for free though as they ran out of chips with the on the day entry...would have made about 10 seconds difference but it was worth it on balance! Tried to get a young club mate to tag along (much faster than me over 5k) but lost him after a few miles. Tough going over the second half but managed to hold it together of sorts over the last 3/4 miles when at one point I thought a drop off in overall pace was looming. A great race t-shirt at the end capped off a fairly decent morning. Back to reality later in the day with another hockey hammering...19-1! Decided to give tonight's match against the undefeated league leaders a miss! Legs feel ok today and am planning a 2/3 mile recovery run in the next few moments!
Looks a great session Dan. Isn't 15 odd miles at MP effort more than the maximum MP run prescribed by P and D? Either way, a great looking session!
Shame with the time DT but it's sort of re-assuring to see it's not just me who may be adapting to the higher mileage totals which can compromise race times?! Still sounds a pretty decent effort though. Definitely can see the benefit of not using the watch and how to pace your next half. Once you start tapering, you might feel a world of difference! Hope it's the same for me too!
Sounds a decent MP session Mr V!
Some decent plans by the looks there Bob. Thinking I'll be using some of those key sessions you noted over the next few weeks myself (2x2 miles/8x1k, etc). Got the Eastleigh 10k in a few weekends time but am beginning to accept any specific training won't give any great benefit in time for a PB attempt now other than dialling into that pace a few times. All part of a bigger picture looming here at the moment though! Not forgotten to note my recent training btw, still need to access my spreadsheet with sessions I've done!
Been there and done that too CB! Well similar in that I've gone to the gym a few times and forgot my trainers!
Thats all part of the plan TR! Being closer to the OH is a very good thing and it's also much hillier around where she lives (Gosport is pancake flat but there are some great parts to run there too). Will you still be attempting a sub 3 with your post injury/illness fitness? Either way, it sounds like you have a good plan even at this late stage. Nice 10 miler too.
Another great performance Duck! Do you think the longer distance training/racing will have a benefit for the summer track season?
Hey YD/TR...good to see you back. I admittedly had a moan about the forum going all quiet a month or so ago because good runners with great, experience, tips and advice like yourself weren't about. It was very ott in hindsight. Good luck with the marathon build up!
Hoppy, I may race the Salisbury 10 on Sunday. Certainly not an A race but will be good to try and PB at 10 miles as it's currently the softest one. Won't be expecting too much though having just been out on a 20 miler! Your injuries last year sound very frustrating and can see why it's all enjoyable now! The good weather is certainly helping! Building the mileage base as you plan may help with injury proofing a little perhaps?
Duck - thinking along the lines of LT sessions and more tempo efforts as one such area as noted, perhaps the type of sessions which Simon would advocate. I don't do any sessions in timed blocks as noted in my last post...it's all based on miles and rounded numbers (or of that sort of nature). Nothing specific in terms of key sessions to try as yet...I think it will also depend on what I decide to do post Manchester. I've pretty much worked out I hate racing in the heat so will keep the distances to perhaps no more than the odd 10k! Either way though, I think you have a good point in that things may just need tweaking a bit rather than everything being ripped up. Some curveball sessions should help as well as remaining patient for any progress!
Cheers Bob! Indeed, start on Monday...pretty nervous but it's hopefully going to be a good career move! Was pretty nice in work on my last day with a lot of people saying how pleased they were etc which was very kind! There is a gym next door to the new work place so may need to get signed up once settled!
As for that 20 miles this afternoon...wasn't the best and couldn't wait to finish! Pace got slower and stuck at that slower pace over the last 6 miles. Perhaps the legs are still heavy from Sunday. Sunday's race if I decide to enter will certainly be entered with no huge expectations! I won't even be annoyed if there is no PB actually despite the softer target with this and will look at it in the context of wider training!
Same here with the beers, more than a few are enough for me. One of my brothers who runs as well has gone tee total over the past year, but he did like a bit too much prior to taking it up!
As for this runner, I don't know him in any way personally, but know of him through other running friends mentioning so won't say too much on a public forum...but he does seem to defy logic. His build in no way represents someone of the times achieved either and is one of the top runners for his age group in my area.
DT, last year I managed some pretty decent PBs pre Brighton....very different story this year though as noted already! Some of that does come down to the windy conditions though which have played a part in almost every race/Parkrun so far this year (also loved the cold and dry conditions last spring). Definitely felt a bit a benefit post Brighton though and the month or two following was the strongest I'd felt all year but more likely compromised much of the remainder of last year with no enforced break.