Will- a good HM can take a good few days to recover from! So listen to your legs.
PS- how are you feeling now? Hope the cold is getting a bit better. And how's the weather across the pond?
washwood- well done on your 20 miler. We've all had long runs which required some rest breaks. I have had plenty longer runs where I've spent a good few minutes bent over and just trying to muster up the energy to go on.
Carter- great running and looking solid for a big new PB at Manchester. Glad I haven't passed my shin splints onto you- that would be a strange miracle to have happened but nothing would surprise me nowadays.
Nell- enjoy your rest! I also like the gym on rest days, I don't actually love a COMPLETE rest day ie. rest day with no physical activity.
Ricky- great run and don't even think about Nell's marathon pace... it's enough to put us mere mortals off.
Gym day for me today, spinning, cross trainer, squats and upper body weights. Feeling good. Will run again tomorrow and pick up some more miles to finish this week on about 40 I think, which would be a great finish to my 'proper' training before the taper.
RRR- how was your 20 miler then? Hope it's gone OK. Sure you'll hit 1:45 HM within the year if you really want to.
AnimalMagic- thanks, and glad you're feeling a bit better. Training for a marathon is no small ask, especially on top of life's usual troubles, and actually sometimes it can be soul sucking when combined with every day stresses. Well done for listening to yourself and continue listening to your body in terms of what running it needs. The hard work is all done by now anyway.
JJ- good luck for Sunday, will 21 miles be your longest so far then? Think 20 will be my limit for this cycle.
Great info from some of you runners who have done Manchester previously on how crowded or not it might be. Happy to hear about lack of crowding, London I found extremely stressful due to the massive volume of people all the way round. It never seemed to ease off (as a four hour plus runner- I'm sure if you ran quicker it'd be less crowded but that's not an option for me...)
saintjason- if it's any consolation I have done 3 out of 4 of my marathons with a regular stopwatch. My best time, at Loch Ness, I rather enjoyed working out the mental arithmetic as I went round about if I was going to make my target time or not. One big thing to be said for running without a garmin during a marathon- you get your ACCURATE times as you hit the mile markers... when you have a garmin, your watch beeps telling you you've done a mile, and yes, you may have 'run a mile' but you're not at the mile marker yet as you've been winding in and out through people. Therefore I think you always have to go for a bit of a faster pace than the minute per mile pace you have in your head for your desired finish time. I think when I ran Edinburgh marathon I ran 26.4 miles according to my garmin!
Rest day for me today and though the legs are achy, the shins are not worse than they've been on any other day. So that's good.
Ricky- yes am delighted. That's my third 20 miler in this campaign and each has been quicker than the last. Which shows even after 3 weeks of hardly any running I haven't lost my endurance which is good. I think your idea is a winner and one I had considered myself. I might set myself the A goal of sub 4, which yes, is probably ambitious, and the B goal of sub 4:15. If I got below 4:15 even by a smidgen I would still have beaten two of my previous marathon times (previous times are in order of speed 3:59, 4:04, 4:15, 4:26) so that would be a happy medium I guess!
Carl-Great splits and great consistency. Enjoy your rest day- you well deserve it. Yes, your run next Thursday does sound tough... in fact tough doesn't cover it... I'd definitely struggle with that one as a mid week mid lengther!
Wowee you lot have been busy bees!!!! Really nice to see everyone's PBs and goals, lots of very speedy people on this thread.
I got in my third 20 miler of the campaign today, should have been fourth but given my injury I'm pleased to have got in another at all. Legs not feeling brilliant just now but I suppose a certain amount of pain is normal after 20 miles when I've not done much in three weeks...
Anyway, it was a mix of hilly city streets, and then canal paths more flat, 20 miles in 3:20 and 10:02 min/mile pace average. So under a minute slower than goal marathon pace, hoping that means I might still be in with a shot of making my goal... although it was tough on the legs, fitness wise I'm feeling good and going to rest the next few days to minimise stress on my injury.